Mick Wallace and Claire Daly do.
The ball is now firmly in the Ukrainian and NATO/EU court. Putin certainly won't back down and derecognise Donetsk and Luhansk. So it's either a war or they just roll over like they did in 2014 and let Russia "peacefully" annex those regions.
They release some strongly worded statements and sanctions that nobody understands. Blair/Clinton era politicians. All soundbites, no substance.
Referendums at gunpoint works every time
And then they will "peacefully" annex the next bit of Ukraine for x reason and so on, the appeasement of the russians and putin is alot more dangerous than war. I hope Nato and the EU countries get boots on the ground and call putins bluff or atleast show him that if he attacks he will cause ww3.
A soft reaction to any form of invasion will be disastrous, it ll spur china to action aswell.
Start building wind farms as fast as possible. It was never a good idea to allow dependence on Russian energy. How stupid can it get?
They played a crucial role in making all of this more likely to happen, yes. (imho)
But it doesn't really matter what we think here. It matters what Putin and Russia think.
Nobody is listening to them. Which is dangerous, and not particularly intelligent behavior.
If you cut Russia from SWIFT how do you buy Russian gas, oil and other commodities ?
china are only watching and barely waiting..
Zelensky to make a televised address to the Ukrainian people imminentely. A big moment for him. Does he merely condemn Putin's actions? Does he announce that people should prepare for war? Does he go further and order the Ukrainian military to begin returning fire along the line of contact?
Do you believe a word Putin says? honestly do you believe the stuff he came out with today as being factual and truth?
I think he should play it down and carry on. No point in destabilizing his own state with extra fear
You don't. You cut them off. The world can live without Russia. Russia can't live without the world.
Where can I watch this?
you think Putin is going to stop with Donetsk and Luhansk?
Genuine question, I wasn't overly worried about wholescale war until watching him this evening. Is there some sort of cognitive/nuerological illness going on?
He should demand that the west come to their aid or they they will immediately hand the whole country to Russia without a fight. 😂In times like these you need to be crazy.
No, not really but in a war that may last years, you need people to continue on as normally as possible despite the catastrophe happening around them, there's no use overreacting, you have to support the war effort and keep society together. You'll need all the morale you can get in the marathon ahead.
An interesting trend I've noticed lately, when someone doesn't agree and parrot back what they're told it's because they're "not listening".
Out of interest, how should the West have played it? I'd love if you could keep it fairly succinct. If it boils down to "Just give Putin everything he wants all the time" then just say that rather than wasting time.
If you look at the photo's of him with Macron at the end of the big table his face looks very puffy. I would not be surprised if he is I'll with something. He has been locked down for the last two years. It's quite possible that he is drugged to the hilt because of some illess
Was reported last year he may have early signs of dementia or Alzheimer's.
According to media reports at the time a number of top doctors in that field in Moscow disappeared suddenly.
no one here is going to know this but I doubt it. He’s an ex KGB tyrant who murders or tries to murder his opponents and his idealogy is expansionist nationalism so we shouldn’t be that surprised.
Pretty much what Neville Chamberlain argued
Russia has a lot less power than the West. Its sabre ratting behaviours are the last vestiges of a fool. Russia is dying economically
There's been suggestion he has parkinson's and may have stuffered a stroke at some point ,he completely disappeared from sight a few years back ,I'd be extremely surprised he wasn't failing mentally
and? If the EU (which they are all members of) decided to remove Russia from swift, then I'm sure what your trying to portray has been factored into that decision. It's not like it's us here on boards that will be making the decision.
Actually have a bad feeling in my stomach from that speech. It's really Adolf in 1939 vibes.
Russia is not powerful. He will galvanise the West against him.
You're advocating a policy of appeasement.
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