As the title says, this is a new thread for chat about Dun Laoghaire in general without the traffic & transport nonsense.
Enjoy.
Thats great news for the IADT students in theory, but the rent will probably be massive for the apartments. From the sounds of things they're definitely aimed at the premium end of the market with an included gym and cinema room.
Still, definitely good news for local businesses and the housing market in the area in general.
Yes good news and the inclusion of a pub in the development serves local (including IADT) needs.
Some big news regarding Frascati today.
There are 2 separate proposals for new apartments to be built there. The 1st block consists of 98 apartments being built at the back of Frascati Centre in Blackrock.
There's an additional 41 apartments being proposed to be built on the site of Frascati as well.
If you add the 45 apartments being built on Frascati's rooftop at the moment. The two other proposed developments adds up to 184 apartments.
Although the local residents who live around the centre are not happy with it. Poor sunlight and privacy appears to be the main reasons who are against the proposal.
Do you think they're right?
I'm surprised to hear that will be amounting to 7 storeys high once finished. Do people here that is good for the area or very excessive?
In the real world 7 stories is nothing
Poor sunlight and privacy appears to be the main reasons who are against the proposal.
According to the Irish Times they are more concerned about the "serious monetary impairment" to their properties, if the scheme goes ahead!!
In a separate development Ossian Smyth is looking for more units and less car spaces for the proposed development on Tivoli Rd.
That'll go down well!!!
The Frascati is nothing but a running a joke at this stage - it's never going to be anything but a construction site, with all the attendant nuisance that brings for tenants and local residents. In principle I'd have no problem with the development is it had been proposed from the start: when there's just a continuous stream of new planning applications for the site though, surely you've got to call a halt to it at some stage for the sake of those affected.
@Larbre34 Would be interested in your take but you seem to be banned for some reason. (Anybody know why?)
Does anyone know whats happening with green space outside the Lidl at the Sallynoggin roundabout? I know there was aspestos issues there before but wasnt that all cleared up when they built the Lidl there?
Its been a a bit of a wasteland for years now with the only activity being Christmas tree selling every December from what I can see. I thought there was going to be an old folks home or something built there?, but nothing seems to be happening in years.
New planning in for it: https://planning.agileapplications.ie/dunlaoghaire/application-details/91863#documents
Permission for a strategic housing development consisting of: construction of a Build-To-Rent residential development of 147 no. apartments (9 no. studio, 51 no. one bedroom, 67 no. two bedroom and 20 no. three bedroom) in 4 no. blocks (ranging in height from five to nine storeys over basement level)
Pic montage of the development: https://planningapi.agileapplications.ie/api/application/document/DLR/3452686
Great to see so many dense developments being planned in the area. Already I see so many in opposition to high rise in Sallynoggin. Even though the tallest part is only 9 stories. Similar to Frasati, these people must suffer from vertigo when they go on holiday to New York, Paris or Benidorm.
Great to see a local representative Ossian Smyth being a YIMBY (yes in my backyard) looking to push for increased dwellings at the site in Dun Loaghaire. And of course Mr. "I Oppose Everything", Boyd Barrett, thinks the plan is too excessive! I see he's also out opposing the Sallynoggin scheme.
He must have said something very bold🤣🤣🤣
Great to see Ossian Smyth actually trying to improve the local area. Boyd-Barrett seems to object to literally any form of housing development, while ranting in the Dail about the housing crisis at the same time. Hes the ultimate hypocritical NIMBY.
Thanks for that, i see one of the attached pdfs there has a link to the development website - https://glenagearygateshd.com/
Heres the overall layout, https://planningapi.agileapplications.ie/api/application/document/DLR/3452750
Looks pretty good I have to say.
Yes indeed a good idea. However I'd love to see his proposal as to how to increase the number of dwellings on the site, so as to render the development less harmful to biodiversity?
Where exactly is the development supposed to be going? Is the lane they're talking about the one that goes up to St Joseph's school?
I've just heard about the tragic accident of the poor woman who was killed at Myrtle Square in Dun Laoghaire. I cannot imagine the level of grief that occurred among the staff who were working at Bloomfields SC this morning. May she RIP.
Crash or collision, not accident.
Aren't crashes and collisions all an accident if not intentional?
First, how do you know it's not intentional, when there are no details of what happened?
Secondly, where do draw the line- do drivers accidentally speed or accidentally use their phones? Do truck operators accidentally put vehicles with known large blind spots into urban areas without adequate cameras or mirrors or crews on watch?
'Accident' is judgemental, usually with no evidence to support it. Crash or collision is factual, not judgemental.
I'm sorry but you're equally on the dark so why say it wasn't an accident in the first place?
@duploelabs That's just his anti-car stance coming into it. He appears to view all motorists as the enemy.
@AndrewJRenko Trucks need to supply goods to the shops in the vicinity. It is part and parcel of how businesses operate. You seem to see their existence as a scourge to the suburban landscape.
I know that poster is the reason why there's "No traffic, commuting, transport chat" in the title of the thread. I also think it's a really **** thing to do to utilise someone's death to shoehorn their agenda in and also to insinuate that a road user intentionally killed someone without any information to support it
Yeah, it's only Andrew. It's not pat, larbre34, taxidriver or any of the other people who are as argumentative as be damned and run away when confronted with actual evidence.
It's not as if Andrew & others haven't had the discussion about WHY large trucks don't need to be doing end-to-end deliveries, complete with links to external sources showing how other countries (and cities) optimise deliveries by having small trucks/vans do last-mile deliveries.
And it's not like foreseeability is a concept in civil law about whether something counts as a 'true' accident, nor that we have tens (if not hundreds) of cyclist and pedestrian deaths over the last couple of decades from large trucks being in urban & suburban areas that they have no business being.
You do you babes, like the rest of the ignorant people on here who bury their heads in the sand while being condescending & superior yet not knowing a cogent and reasoned argument if it punched them in the face.
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I didn't say it wasn't an accident. I said we don't know that it was accidental, so we shouldn't be calling it an accident. It is a crash or collision.
You've noticed that Gardai, fire, ambulance services, RSA all refer to RTC nowadays, not the RTA they used to talk about 20-30 years ago.
It's not the existence of trucks that is the problem, it is the trucks that kill people around them that is the problem. Maybe, like any business, they could find a safe way of doing their business, as they are required to do in law? Maybe they could fit whatever cameras or mirrors are required to overcome their blind spots, or provide crews on watch when reversing - basically, whatever it takes to avoid killing people?
Anyway, I'll leave it there, as I didn't realise we were on the 'no traffic' thread.
No, it’s the national policy. You’ll never here of a RTA (Road traffic Accident) from the Gardai/ RSA anymore it’s all RTC. Accidents don’t happen , they are as result of consequences and peoples actions or inaction (e.g checking tyre pressure), as such they are crashes/collisions
Good Lord, surely it’s understood that in general non-technical/legal discussion use of the word “accident” is usual when there was unlikely to have been intent to harm or be harmed. (And I say this as someone who isn’t shy to shout at drivers when I feel they’re being negligent around me when I walking or cycling.)
RIP to the deceased.
Actually you did say it wasn't an accident
No , accidents don’t just happen. There generally something that happens first.
We’ve moved from excuses.
Of course everything has a place in a chain of cause-and-effect, but my point is that the word is used to express a lack of intent of outcome
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