I think you're an Irish nationalist on some other threads. It is weird to see you on a thread where there is a discussion about a possible invasion of a weaker country by its nuclear armed, former Imperial master and you chose to support the imperialists.
@Sand A weak US president seeking a foreign conflict to distract from domestic weakness..
Why are you making crap up ...
The best card for Vlad to play now is to not do anything. Say those pipelines were not blown up by Russia and they don't believe Ukraine did it either. Throw the direction at the Americans and false flags.
There will be a lot of anger around Europe if the gas supplies are hammered and prices skyrocket. Accuse the Americans. Create a rift between Europe and America.
This is the sort of stuff that is coming from the Joe Biden mouthpieces on this thread since it started.
I come on this thread in the evenings sometimes and all I hear is the same crap that I heard Joe Biden say on the radio on the way home.
The Crimean land bridge already exists - its called the Kerch Strait Bridge. Opened for rail traffic in December 2019. Next?
As for the "show of strength" motivation for a conflict - if that is the reason, who do you think is more desperate? Putin with near dictatorship control of Russian elections? Or Biden, facing into a mid-term election with disastrous looking projections for the Democrats and Biden personally?
Lets face it. We are really in "Wag the Dog" territory here. A weak US president seeking a foreign conflict to distract from domestic weakness.
Of course they have the capabilities for a strike on Ukraine, what strike are you on about? Air strike? They have the capability to invade Ukraine. I know, everyone does. Why are you pointing out the blatantly obvious?
I don't even know what you're on about to be honest or have any idea what the point of the whole post was, I don't expect the Ukrainians to come out and say the blatantly obvious that they couldn't stop an invasion.
I'm simply stating it is very very unlikely Russia will launch an an invasion of Ukraine like the USA is claiming, they are completely over exaggerating it saying they are going to invade the whole of Ukraine and try to control the whole territory. There is a realistic possibility (as there has been for several years) that they might make an incursion into pro Russian territory Donbas, if the USA were saying that that's what an invasion means then I would not be complaining as it is realistic to be fair. A complete take over of Ukraine as claimed by the US is not realistic at all
Id assume he wants a land bridge to his Crimea base. But also to shore up how strong he is at home. Show of strength to his mafia friends who's money is probably big enough to topple him.
He's a murdering scumbag but is also invading a neighbouring country. But hey ho here you are defending that action and claiming a little invasion is grand sure he's not going the hole hog. Isn't America so stupid for thinking its the hole hog he wants haw haw haw America look at how silly they are. Putin has them eating out of his hand haw haw haw.
Or some other shite....
Putin is a chess player. He will push for whatever he can get away with. Full scale invasion or part occupation or fullscale invasion followed by a withdrawl after negotiations. All likely at this time.
forget about the impending invasion more importantly how do you pronounce Kiev
is it key'av or keev ? 😶
I’ve always wondered about people who really, really fall for it though, do they know or does it make them feel superior to be a dupe?
LOL - do you get paid for this or do you just enjoy the taste?
Okay, so that is the cope now? The evil empire was simultaneously intimidated by the brave defenders of middle earth and will still invade the shire?
I know you think you're being realistic but you are not. Putin can be an evil scumbag - and likely he is - and still have little to no interest in invading Ukraine. It gains him nothing he does not already have. He has his Black Sea naval base. He has his frozen conflict with Ukraine. He has his veto on Ukrainian membership of NATO. If you were Putin why would you further invade Ukraine?
Stop - think above the level of because Putin is evil, or because all clay belongs to Mother Russia.
Do you feel used or are you just a willing dupe?
Isn't that what you'd call 'whataboutery'?
Pot, kettle and black springs to mind reading that response, at least you didn't dispute my point!
While at the same time today Biden said he is “convinced” that Russia’s Putin has made a decision to invade the whole of Ukraine.
Asked how he had come to that conclusion, Biden told reporters: “We have a significant intelligence capability”.
I'm not like other people I don't blame Biden for this, he's just a senile old man just like Bush who is being told what to say by the intelligence people.
So many posts in this thread are going to age badly.
You are more upset by what you see as American propaganda than Russias actions versus Ukraine in violation of treaty and international law?
The US have said they have the capability for a strike on Kiev. They do. How successful it is is a factor of Ukranian response and the logistics support they receive from NATO. Do you expect the Ukranians to say we couldnt stop a strike and it would easily succeed? Wouldnt that just encourage one? Or like Biden says they will pay a heavy price? And would not be successful as the Ukranians say?
Lots of military offensives fail and yet those who launch them must have thought they could succeed or fulfil some political end.
No propaganda explanation needed.
I think you need to recalibrate your moral compass, or like Russia have you dispensed with it?
Lol.
Putin was caught with his pants down. The whole thing made public so he had to revise and rethink. He's obviously decided to go ahead anyway.
Quite telling the two. Videos. We're recorded on Wednesday isn't it. Don't you think.
From TV coverage I’ve seen they seem of the opinion they hope it doesn’t happen but are prepared should it come to pass.
Okay, well then you might have to come to grips with the reality that people other than yourself might interpret a complex situation - which none of us have control over - differently than you do yourself. I'm perfectly comfortable with you being wrong. I still believe in the existence of non-malicious uninformed people. It's very telling that the copes from you and others are to do with social media manipulation (I honestly do not have a twitter or any other sort of SM account) and trolls/bots/government agents.
Lets face it - the Russian invasion was supposed to have started Wednesday. Is there any rational thought process going on in there that maybe things are not what the TV told you?
At this point it is like an end-of-the-world cult which predicted the world would end yesterday. You and other true believers are now left with the bitter hardship of trying to figure out what to do tomorrow.
I would have no problem doing so, they already believe it. Ukraine have always claimed an invasion of Kiev is very very unlikely.
Nope.
You're in agreement with your own contrarian head. Nothing more.
Maybe grab a Ryanair flight to Kiev (you still can) and have a go an convincing the locals of your theories. See how far it gets you.
Yes I agree completely, apart from a couple of points, Ukraine intelligence said just a few days ago that "The Russian military contingent near the Ukrainian border is insufficient to carry out a successful large-scale armed aggression against Ukraine," the USA invented a narrative of a full scale invasion against Ukraine, they didn't invent the narrative of an incursion into Donbas.
I'm glad now we have finally gotten somewhere on this thread, American propaganda is getting weaker by the day. People on this thread now agree with the Ukrainian government that a full scale invasion of Ukraine is very very unlikely.
Biden claimed just last week there would likely be a full scale invasion against Ukraine in the next few days which would include an overwhelming attack against Kyiv the capital.
What is your agenda with these weasel words?
An attempt to destabilise Ukraine with such an attack is within the capability of the forces Russia has amassed threatening Ukraine.
The US in warning of this attempts to deter it. It may be a feint by Russia but it is not a US invention. It is part of the Russian campaign v an independent Ukraine
Any invasion of Ukraine is completely wrong and in violation of treaties Russia signed and unjustifiable. Agreed?
Ukraine has been occupied by the Russians all that time?
Contagious mind virus?
Let me look back over my posts.
Nope,
Wait
Just checked again there.
Definitely didn't say that at all, anywhere.
You wouldn't be one for the oul hyperbole and obfuscation would ya.... Nawww... Not you...
Very vague answers to a simple question, do you think Russia is going to invade Kyiv the capital or not? The Ukrainians have always said it's very very unlikely although Biden said just last week it will likely happen in the next few days.
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