Lol cancel culture.
Listen horse the only real cancel culture that. Exists is in Russia China and some of the fun parts of the Arabian peninsula.
You wouldn't know what cancel culture was until someone cuts you up or throws you out a window for going against the regime.
This infatuation with 'the other' or being on 'a contrary side' seems to be an originator of Adhd or some other form of ism..
Agreed, it's similar to the British partitioning Ireland against the will of the vast majority of the people in Ireland it cannot be justified, although at least the Russians are not forcing it in Donbas like the British did here, although the Russians did force it in Crimea to be fair.
You make very prescient points. It's funny that your post was thanked by the main culprits when it comes to calling people names (Putin bots and history revisionists) despite your mentioning people sticking their fingers in their ears as well as victors writing the history books in spite of what really happened.
Outside hours!!
Must be clocking up over time prior to weekend attacks.
This is all exactly as it was said to be the plan last week. Interesting stuff. Looks like putins ship isn't as tight as he'd like it.
The Russians aren't even trying to hide that they're manufacturing a false pretext.
This. There's little to no meaningful discussion due to being constantly derailed by outlandish nonsensical statements.
In fact, is there a thread on the politics forum? They usually get weeded out there.
So you don't want people with opposing views to your own, to be forcibly removed from the site then? lol
Careful, all this talk of tyrants and dictators is giving you notions old boy. 😉
You were talking about Donbas not half the stuff you mentioned in this post, Ukrainian citizens are behind the firing and shelling and the car bomb, unless you yourself recognise the Donbas Republic do you? the pro Russian separatists in Donbas are responsible for what you said in your previous post that I was replying to.
It seems to be a popular trend in some parts to go completely against the facts and evidence, to be contrarian to seem edgy or more intelligent. Its not about follow "a line" or going against one as that makes you more aware. It's about following the facts and evidence in any situation. The people rallying against the obvious and clear situation here are not presenting any facts . They're not refuting with evidence. Just rejections and whataboutery.
Why should Russia make any concessions? They've learned the hard way that the West cannot be trusted to honour promises, agreements, treaties. Just ask the North Koreans, the Iranians, the Palestinians, the Afghans. They make these empty promises, they even sign treaties and then rip them up and betray those with whom they have made promises when it suits them.
If the US / NATO was truly a "man of his word" then this concessions imbroglio wouldn't be a problem. Concessions to the West has always been the thin end of the wedge.
You know we don't talk like that here, right?
Old boy.... I mean.. One of ye were calling lads dorks the other day.
Jesus try a bit harder. If your good you could move here get a good job and get on with living.
Your first paragraph there. You've said that exact same sentence nearly every day for over a month on repeat. Even when it's not relevant in the slightest. Do you say that when you first answer a phone call too?
Are you talking about people on this thread or the Ukrainian government? I've listened to both sides and I agree with the Ukrainians far more than the Americans on this subject. The Ukrainians have a far more realistic narrative of events than the Hollywood American narrative of events.
There's a difference between healthy discussion and people copy pasting the same shite about something unrelated claiming it's related.
Apparently only 400,000(claimed by russia) people took up free Russian passports in the separatists areas over 8 years ,the other 2 million people have kept their Ukrainian passports ,
Odd that only a minority of a minority as actually want to rejoin Russia
Let me get this straight,...you seriously believe Ukranian citizens are behind that ? Ukranian government are saying its not. So maybe you shouldn't believe the imperialist Russian/Belarus hysteria. The fact you can't see, or refuse to see what's going on is disturbing.
But Ukraine isn't living under anyone's "jackboot". They are independent and have been for over 30 years
I care more about the facts and the evidence. Not over choosing sides or bashing America. You're unable to think critically.
So explain the Russian jackboots in eastern Ukraine
Why should Russia make any concessions?
Hmmm...because it's a mafia state dictatorship which is threatening nuclear war, whereas Ukraine is a free democracy which is not threatening anybody?
The 2 year pandemic miraculously ends, and instantly we are on the verge of World War 3 according to BBC , the mainstream media like to terrify its audience - The world was a much better place before the internet , not as much anxiety and depression , no wonder some people are afraid to leave ther house.
I assumed you were talking about my second paragraph which was an actual quote. It's very relevant that the Ukrainians say the situation is no worse than before, the only difference between now and the last several years is secret intelligence that cannot be revealed from anonymous officials in the USA, for example last year in spring and other years before that there was a similar build up of troops on the border, the only difference this time is secret intelligence from the USA that cannot be revealed with claims of false flag attacks and imminent invasions.
Hilariously earlier on you claimed that nothing the Ukrainians said last month is relevant anymore as the situation has deteriorated, but all the quotes of the president of Ukraine I gave earlier were from back when the invasion was imminent.... Doesn't make any sense.
https://twitter.com/DI_Ukraine/status/1494748528127664130?t=5VWYjufHNl0-yn8Qy-Q7Rw&s=19
Who do you believe now @Harryd225 , are the Ukranians suddenly spoofing now that they aren't following your narrative?
You evidently haven't bothered to read any of the actually history from 1991-2014.
The DNR/LNR are lawless GRU puppet enclaves. God help the people there who have to live in what is effectively a Mad Max style ghetto.
The video actually claimed to be Polish Special Forces attacking this chemical facility with 12 killed by the separatists force
It worked better in Crimea at gunpoint
Didn't someone claim 1.5 million people in Crimea voted to join Russia (90%of the total population of Crimea ,only the population of Crimea was around 2.60 million at the time so half the population didn't vote to join Russia ,
1.5 out of 2.60 doesn't equate to 90%
You do know there's a perfectly good conspiracy theory forum for that sort of talk, don't you comrade?
Oh, and I suppose you're the perfect arbiter of what constitutes a good discussion are you?
Let me guess, stick to the pro western narrative and drool over all the warmongering porn on the twitters-fere? 😆
You know people are struggling in a discussion, when they're making desperate attempts at backseat modding. It's last resort territory.
What are the facts exactly? Please explain, what facts are any different from spring last year for example? American intelligence is not fact to most people, intelligence that has never even been revealed.
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