Where do you source your devine truth from then sensei ?
That's the narrative being put out in the American and British media is itπππ sure he may have said that but he didn't mean anything he said, he's just trying to calm the situation down, don't listen to anyone else listen to us.
This is a prime example of someone who has been brainwashed, people like this can't believe a word the Ukrainians or anyone else says, they only believe what they hear from the US intelligence services and British and American media.
Politically no, militarily yes. We pose no threat to Russia geopolitically , militarily or economically. The US, larger Europeans countries and NATO nations are. That's why they send their garbage bots here.
The Germans are not stupid, they know what the Americans are up to here.
The question is, can they reign in the irresponsible rhetoric and turn the tide around? All of us here in Europe need to hope that they can.
@Harryd225 explain to me what you thinking is going on in the Donbas right now? And explain to me what all the russian troops and equipment around the border are doing ? And don't mention aMeRiCa as even Ukraine are acknowledging the troops and events in East Ukraine right now.
At some point boards and other sites will have to start putting 2 and 2 together on propaganda origins and remove the propagator accounts en masse. It actually doesn't add anything to the sites at all, it's really removes from the sites entirely. Ultimately killing overall traffic for what might be a short term peak for back and forth clashes.
But it diminishes the overall quality and experience.
Its not even amusing anymore.
Just like other conspiracy theorists, even when all hell breaks loose some of the guys on here will deny deny deny all evidence , photos, videos . You could take them to the front lines, getting shelled, shot at and bombed and they'll call it propaganda and yap about America.
And you've been explained to many times he is trying to calm the situation down and avoid chaos in his country as that is exactly what Russia want. This was weeks ago. The situation has firther evolved and escalated since then . All other evidence and action from all sides points to the contrary to your one quote you obsess over.
Even when the tanks are rolling in you're still going to be posting that quote like Nero playing the fiddle .
Shush, you're ruining their fun!
Twitter is always telling the truth, when it's telling you what you want to hear. π
Proxy wars are more about the propaganda and hype than the actual action.
Seems like this has just become a place for people to get their fix of tribal side choosing now that the Covid dust is settling.
Its a good thread to read but my God its a bit like the covid thread back in the day, just can get a bits nuts.
I'm simply telling people there are different narratives to what is going on, the USA have a very different narrative on events to most countries for example Ukraine.
The Ukrainian president has said he doesn't see the situation now as any worse than before, there has been war in small parts of Ukraine for several years now and there has been similar amount of troops on the border for training operations for several years also. He says that the recent fear and panic that has been created recently of this imminent Russian invasion has been fed to the media by anonymous officials in the CIA, he says that this narrative is far from an accurate description of Russia's plans.
When asked about possible reasons for the USA and UK creating this fear he says "This is speculation, but the US might still try to undermine the Nord Stream project, the pipeline between Russia and Germany, there is a very clear economic interest β there are gas producers in the US who are direct competitors with Russia"
Well lads you've heard it now...Ireland is a 'neutral' nation....
The Same Posters all popped up ,8 years ago ,and return to every thread on ukraine to blame American and the far right Nazis in Ukraine
The war lust of Biden and Blinken finding significant echo among the pro Western Imperialism posters here in the last 24-36 hours.
The ratcheting up of name calling, abuse and lies is interesting and a couple of posters in particular are a clearly bit manic and seem somewhat unhinged in their posts.
Interesting and notable that Blinken in addressing the UN had to mention the US lying and spreading misinformation before the UN previously...
Actually it makes sense now. Ireland are a neutral nation and not a member of NATO. They must send all their worst performers from bot training here and save all the good ones for the NATO nations.
I'm sure it's coming , referendum on allowing Russia troops and nukes to be move to Belarus permanently is happening soon ,I reckon that's going to kick off big time when it's pushed through against the wishes of the Belarusian people..
If there was ever a pair that should be drone striked its them two
@Harryd225 you've been posting the same one quote for over a month now. Ignoring all other info and evidence. Moscow need to improve their recruitment. I must say I'm very unimpressed by the quality.
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Let me clear up some things for people on this thread who have become so deluded from hearing so much propaganda they have lost the ability to think for themselves.
It's quite clear to anyone who can take a fair and educated look on the situation in Ukraine that the narrative of the UK and USA is far from the reality and miles away from the narrative of both Russia and Ukraine.
In an interview with the Ukrainian president last month he called on the USA and UK stop creating fear and panic over the situation, he also said in the interview that satellite images alone were insufficient to tell the amount of troops on the border, although there have been similar numbers of troops stationed around the border on and off for the last several years as they regularly carry out training operations in the area.
The president of Ukraine gave people a stark warning on US propaganda in his interview saying "The interpretation in the West and specifically the media campaign, the scare about an imminent Russian invasion, should be viewed carefully, this narrative is fed by nameless, anonymous officials to the media, while itβs far from clear that this is an accurate description of Russian plans."
There's a conflict in Ukraine and has been for several years, recently though the USA and UK have been trying to stir up the tensions for their own benefit, there are many possible reasons for this, according to the President of Ukraine he said in his in his interview about why the USA might be doing this, he says "This is speculation, but the US might still try to undermine the Nord Stream project, the pipeline between Russia and Germany, there is a very clear economic interest β there are gas producers in the US who are direct competitors with Russia."
That's another government which deserves a bloody nose.
I'd be expecting they will ask that Russian captain in Belarus to intervene too
It's absolutely obvious what's going on .
Despite claims of others
All the Putin bots grasping at straws now. Their arguments falling apart faster than the USSR did.
It isn't obvious what is going on at all. Most of the information here in the last few hours has been taken from Twitter. You might have an opinion on what is going on from what you've read, but I think we owe it to history to acknowledge that right now, in a situation like this, nobody really knows what is going on. When I say nobody, I mean civilians and not those making calls.
This time the world is very aware at what the Russians are at. They are about to stick there hand into an angry bees hive.
Denis Pushilin, separatist leader of DPR, announcing on Russian State TV that a major war is now unfolding.
I'd imagine a joint 'appeal' will be made over the weekend from the leaders of DPR and LPR to Putin for Russia to intervene.
Reports of heavy shelling throughout the line of contact in eastern Ukraine this evening. It's going to be a tense night.
If you're telling yourself that then you don't really want to know what is going on, tbh. It's transparently obvious what is going on.
It's not the first car bombing in the area
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