It never ceases to amaze me just how easy and quick it is these days to be able to completely tear apart nearly every attempted defence of Trump.
Absolutely glorious to see.
Feels like the sharks are now circling for the Trump family. Hopefully justice prevails.
And it will go to appeal. Most likely will not be changed. Then Trump will definitely take the fifth.
And adverse inferences will be drawn as a result.
I’m not the lawyer here
And neither was the person representing Donald trump today in court from what was reported. Maybe she should’ve watched more law and order and less my cousin vinny and she might have had a better day out then she did.
I mean the trump org statement wasn’t true but at least it stuck to a story, only for trump to release his own statement which completely under cut the companies one.
Bravo, Apart from the fact that Ronald Fischetti is a man not a woman. Good to see your attention to detail.
Indeed, Fischetti has already made that point.
Is that it? Is the only person who can take Trump down, himself? He's lied, cheated, conned and bought his way out of things that should have ended him all thought his life. At this stage, is he so impervious to the consequences of his own actions that only he can undo himself?
well clearly my attention to detail is better than yours as you didn’t bother reading that the lawyer representing Donald trump the former president was a woman. Ronald Fischetti is representing the kids not the former president.
Absolutely. As per the link francois posted earlier to this Twitter thread outlining Trump's lawyer's completely shambolic performance in court.
this is the quality of lawyer that trump is now hiring. the standard hasn't improved
Trump had a female lawyer yesterday, Alina Habba.
Actually, it seems like both Habba and Fischetti are Trump Sr.'s lawyers. Fischetti seems to be his lawyer for the criminal case, and I think Habba is his lawyer for the civil case. So both had a hand in his defence in yesterday's hearing because they're arguing the decision in one affects the other.
But that still doesn't change the reports of how Habba acted yesterday.
No top attorney would want to be anywhere near him or this shïtshow now. If she's the best he can get, he's well screwed.
She was only just short of doing this
And that's the biggest issue he faces; between the impeachment, election cases and now these cases, he's not hiring lawyers for their expertise or advice, he's hiring lawyers who will just parrot his talking points because he's so sure he's right and that being President (former President) should mean absolute immunity from anything and everything, even though in this case it's his business dealings from before he was President and he's no longer the sitting President when the case is being brought.
And the lawyers will gladly go along with it for the most part because they can blame the failures on biased judges/AGs etc, and will have a cushy number doing the rounds as a talking head on news channels for a few years. And shady businessmen will always need shady lawyers to represent them.
Ah yes the old "just asking a question".
you not being a lawyer, doesn't prevent you from doing even the most basic of research attempts before "just asking a question"
As we are well aware by now any information from Trump or anyone working with him is immediately suspect and should be verified before making a fool of oneself.
Come on, there's a reason trump chose her. Have you seen her? Seriously, his HR people must have the easiest job in the world: "We need a new heavy goods truck driver with years of experience hauling delicate equipment." "Can he be a hot woman in late 20s/early 30s?" "Yes... Yes they can"
Y'know, NOW would be a great time for Guilani to release this PROOF that Hilary Clinton is/was spying. The stuff he has been sitting on "for years".
I, for one, agree with him and trump et! I say RELEASE this proof. Deflect from trump's spiraling situation. I WANT to see this proof. Please. PLEASE release this proof.
... Oh wait, he can't? It's not proof? Say it ain't so. I am stunned that a lawyer of his standing would lie like that.... Oh wait, he's disbarred?
It is widely accepted that Rudy guiliani performed very well as mayor especially after 9/11.
He also single nearly single handedly rid New York of the mafia.
He has a history of accomplishmens but ye wouldn't choose to brong them up of course oh no.
and that is all a long time ago. He fucked up his legacy when he got involved with trump.
What's any of that got to do with his involvement with Trump? You can always start a Rudy appreciation thread if you're such a fan.
Because they're not relevant to this thread or to Giuliani's actions in the past few years as Trump's lawyer. Not to mention that Giuliani standing outside Four Seasons Total Landscaping and finding out Biden was declared winner of the election was the final nail with regards his reputation, yet he's still hammered in more nails since then anyway.
Giuliani's reputation has been utterly sullied to the point that he's little more than a punchline at this stage. That all comes from his last few years with Trump, which is what this thread is about.
Thats due to the fact that he has completely tarnished his legacy with the **** he has pulled over the last few years.
yes he done great things years ago going after the mob and as mayor of NYC but now the poor bugger is just batshit.
Harold Shipman saved some peoples lives before he murdered all those old people but no one ever mentions that about him.
Poor old Rudy
Went from prosecuting crime families to working for one
He did a decent job in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 certainly.
I'd question the "single-handedly brought down the Mafia thing" though - Yes he was the DA at the time but it was a team of ADA's that did all the work and in fact tried the cases , Rudi did the Press conferences and not much else.
But even so , he utterly destroyed that any shred of that positive legacy in the time since then - All the way from repping for Purdue pharma to try to get the cases against them around Oxycontin abuse rejected up to and including his ongoing "work" for Trump.
Doing some good things 20+ years ago isn't life-time air-cover for being an awful human being now.
Talk is that he specifically went after the Cosa Nostra to make room for the Russian syndicates
Having Trump on anyone's books is barely worth the paper it's written on, he's not well known for paying what he owes people. Also any lawyer worth their salt risks having their standing dragged through the mud by doing that orange idiot's exact bidding in-court.
I feel that any lawyer who willingly takes on Trump as a client at this stage must be:
A) Someone who thinks that they are such a good lawyer they they will succeed where others have failed.
B) Someone truly blind to the true nature of the guy and took the job unaware.
or,
C) A MAGA zealot in service of their God-King (based on behavior, she's probably this)
Any proof ? I have that theory very interesting
But surely he would present this proof of Clinton spying. He has the proof. For years apparently. If ever trump needed it, it's now. Or even better, BEFORE the last election. That would have handed trump the election.
So obviously it is fair to say that there is NO proof. At most, there is similar unverifiable "eyewitness" testimony of said spying. Maybe he can bring another drunk woman as proof.
The fact of the matter is: If there was proof - irrefutable, verifiable proof, it would have been brought up years ago and it has not. So there is none and he is lying. Which is part of the reason why he is disgraced and disbarred. He is the poster boy of how toxic a relationship to trump organisation is. He has sacrificed his career, his reputation, his personal dignity! As others have said, now he is simply a joke, a punchbag. Decades from now he will be used as a cautionary tale of choosing who you deal with.
