The key elements include six high speed charging hubs on motorways capable of charging eight vehicles simultaneously; 16 high speed charging hubs capable of charging four vehicles simultaneously; additional high power chargers at 34 current 50 kW locations; upgrading over 50 22 kW chargers to 50 kW, and replacing up to 264 locations with 528 charge points at the pre-existing pilot grade of 22 kW to next generation high reliability models.
It’s not too small, it’s just the wrong types and quantities of units in the wrong places.
It's like schrodingers network, it's both so big that it keeps competitors out of the market, and so small as to not fulfil demand. It doesn't look like eCars are aiming for a monopoly position.
NI hasn't had any expansion in 10+ years. And for at least 5 years they weren't even maintaining what was here.
But site approvals, planning etc. They all take years to get! We've only had 5 years!
Similar story with the republic. Years since the funding was approved, but only a handful of new sites. Basically just the hubs. No new AC units. No new regional DC locations.
It's like the good/bad old days down here when chargers were free to use, always broken, and the comparable associations did nothing but have coffee with Anna and want to claim credit for anything positive that happened, like OMFG a replacement SPOF 50kW charger, WOW
Lol, criticise the Northern Irish network at your peril...
Rules are, only EVANI are allowed to condemn eCars, so that when chargers are finally installed they can claim it was because of their influence.
ECars currently replacing some rapids in NI and everyone is giggling like schoolgirls.
Yes it's good to finally see some progress. But the way eCars have treated NI for years is an absolute disgrace and I'm sure it's no coincidence that at the same time EasyGo announce that they're currently scouting sites for up to 100 rapids, eCars finally install the first new rapid for I believe 4-5 years.
And its not even a new site, just replacement of old units.
Its like Toyota announcing their first EV. Too little, too late, and I hope they fail miserably and get eaten up by the competition.
It's going to have to be a very sweet spot given the difficulties & costs involved with getting an ESBN hookup!!
re ecars getting to big is it sarcasm? I can't really grasp it sometimes. Would these guys get broken down for setting the bar to high? Or just because they se the reality?
Pretty sure there is a sweet point in the market share when suddenly all operators will fight to install chargers. It is not far and coming fast
The correct number should be simultaneously usable
I'd much rather see fuel station operators invest in their own charging infra instead of selling off eCars. I think the goal is to make sure eCars don't get too big and end up being broken up as a monopoly.
Jesus that makes for grim reading!!
All hope now lies with the private sector! Tesla, Ionity, EasyGo and fingers crossed some new players from abroad.
I was about to post it but gave up as it is such a sad news. Beside the fact that the number is fudged which mean the 3000 will be proportionately fudged. The target is that in the new decade there will be on sale only cars with plugs. That will mean that using the most pessimistic growth model in 2030 will be around 500k EVs on the road.
at the end of 2021 22k EVs ..... 1350 "chargers"
at the end of 2030 500k EVs .... 3000 "chargers"
x20 ..... x 2
Our only hope is ecars to be sold by then
I wouldn't mind if it was a terminology thing, but their glossary of terms is pretty clear on what a charge point is. And it's not like the ever post up on Facebook saying "we've just installed 3 charge points" when it's a single 50kW unit.
So they’d be also be counting the 50kW units as 3!
shameful fudging of the numbers.
I finally got some indication from ESB that 1350 is BS, and they mean 1350 connection points, not units.
To paraphrase "it's not my fault, its everybody else !"
ESB’s plan to more than double electric vehicle chargers to 3,000 from 1,350 by the end of the decade is bound to raise a few eyebrows.
At an event on Monday, Paddy Hayes, ESB chief executive, noted that ESB Networks was a separate business from electricity generation and supply, is very heavily regulated to ensure that anyone seeking connections is treated equally, and there is no preferential treatment for other businesses within the group.
Now look at the cause of the difference, the Scottish network isn't an operator led network like Ireland's is, they actually have local government which is trying to achieve something and has funded an infrastructure fit for it's residents.
J14 Mayfield being romantic and dishing out the love today
I'm holidaying in Scotland at the moment and the difference in the level of changing infrastructure here vs. Ireland is just so ridiculous. Almost every smallest town has a DC charger or two, superchargrers also well served up to Inverness, Stirling had rows and rows of AC chargers. Most are chargeplacescotland.org branded which i guess is the local equivalent of Ecars.
Makes me shake my head in disbelief. What an useless shower of excuse makers the Ecars are. Absolutely no ambition, value of money or vision. My home town of Leixlip population of 14676: 1 AC dual charger. Aboyne where we are atm: pop 2910: 2 CCS, 2 CHAdeMO, 1 dual AC.
That ad was on the radio last year, heard it a few times and couldn't believe what I was hearing.
Has anyone received the new EV owner leaflet yet they mentioned on the call last week? By the time they print and distribute it, it will probably be out of date.
if you use their cable yes, your cable on the AC no
a random drive in the ICE today had me listening to the FM, where I heard an ad for ESB eCars....
peddling the same numbers from their presentation last week!
so they're paying for advertising now?!
DC charger in Belfast replaced the other day, first new or replacement rapid in years in the country.
1 day later, out of order lol.
Has since been fixed, but seriously. What van are they buying these off the back of?
This is the thing. They don't need planning for most of these swaps. And some locations are not suitable for the DC chargers.
In fairness without planning permission we will get more chargers so not too bad really
The decision to replace the AC was made most likely in the office without knowledge of the layout. An untethered AC benefits from longer cables. If it doesn't fit it is your fault as you don't have a long enough cable. When the switch happened "good enough" was the conclusion. Maybe the planning permission exemption is not a good thing after all.
Id love to meet the person who thought that was a good idea, probably drives a petrol or diesel
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