Should we believe the Russian media ,the one that said ukraine were summarily executing people today
It strikes a chord with many on the radical right across Europe who see Russia as standing up to gays and Jews and their key position in US imperialism etc etc.
We see it here in this thread.
Exactly. No nation has profited more from war in the last 100+ years than the US has. War is in it's best interest.
What's worst of all is european countries will take the biggest financial hammering if anything escalates.
Funny how the beliefs of lot of posters here seem to align perfectly with the Russian "mainstream media".
The criminal Putin regime is a is a regime which, like the far right in general, is built on the ideology of conspiracy.
Everything that is inconvenient for the criminal regime is "a gay conspiracy", "a foreign conspiracy", "a Jewish conspiracy" or some such.
There was a general theme across many discussion boards that the first side that mentions "Hitler" or "Nazis" have automatically lost the debate.
I said it the moment they pulled out of Afghanistan, watch this space...
They've no interest in a peaceful world.
They have so many people fooled into thinking they're trying to play the peacemaker. (quite a lot of them on this thread)
So the Soviets didn't collaborate with the Nazis and Russia doesn't use anti-Semitism against Ukraine, according to you?
Oooohkay.
I suppose at least we now know the exact sort of ideology we're dealing with when it comes to Putin cheerleaders.
Well Joe and his party were going to have something to pay back their corporate sponsors. I'll give you that.
It still remains Russia who are doing all the work.
The real peaceniks are the ones who wage eight years of war on a peaceful neighbouring country, tell the people of that country they have no right to exist as a separate people and mount 150,000 troops on the rest of their border, ready to invade.
The real warmongerers are the ordinary Ukrainian people who want to live normal, peaceful lives.
That's Putinist logic for ya.
I'm not picking on you in particular but I'm always curious when I hear people use this phrase, or in the case of this particular case, when people derisively refer to "Western media".
May I ask, where are you getting your information from if you're not getting it from the above?
Well looky what we have here. If it isn't Russian media invoking the Holocaust as a reference point for a fake genocide which Russia has invented as a pretext for invasion.
But here's BluePlanet to tell us why that's just grand.
https://twitter.com/mbk_center/status/1494361695044710403
There must be something in the Russian Psyche about gang banging countries to their west.
The point they are reinforcing for the home audience is that Western Ukraine was called East Poland not that long ago. The Polacks occupied it for a long time. Russia is asserting imperial perogative.
It will be denied by the troll factory wannabes on here
Zero relevance. They are not posting on an internet discussion board which is the point i was making, insofar as I am aware.
But i agree that it's poor form on the part of Olga Skabeeva.
Apparently Russia's history of Nazi collaboration and current day Russian invoking of the Holocaust to fabricate a war against their peaceful neighbour has no relevance now, because it doesn't suit ya.
Youse people are complete piss takers.
How's the weather over there in Petrograd?
It's sickening how people see the US as being the knight in shining armor, an advocate for world peace. When in reality it has been a cancer to the world ever since WWI.
Even Churchill said that the US were "fundamentally hostile" and "wish to dominate world politics". No truer words were spoken.
The Russians want to be seen to be creating false flags - to rattle and insult the west.
Always the way isn't it...
Once again, the mighty valiant Yanks had no choice other than to race into battle to save the world.
Seriously, how many times do they have to screw some region of the world up, before some of you guys will start to wake up?
Remind us of what Russia did post WW2 ..
Says the man that constantly supports Russia on this thread oh the Irony.
It's that you are pretending Russia is different. That's the baffling part. Russia remains an imperial state with a love of foreign adventure.
Russia and America have much in common.
Indeed, though you'll note I made no reference to 'Jews', I'm certainly no fan of Putin. Though I will say the idea that Putin 'loves' the Soviet Regime is a bit fanciful...
People might want to consider the indisputable historical and contemporary reasons why the overwhelming majority of people in Europe - especially Ukraine - would much prefer the US - for all its faults - as the backstop power, rather the Russians.
Seems none of the Putin cheerleaders ever do that.
The populations of lativa , Estonia , lativa Lithuania, Poland , Georgia, Moldova , Germany all disagree with the same people millions upon millions decided that they were not Russians ,the same applies to Ukraine ,and likely Belarus too
Why does the Putin regime use anti-Semitism as a way to whip up hatred against Ukraine?
Putin says "the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century".
Let's get this straight. Putin considers the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 as worse than the Holocaust.
So he's quite the fan of the Soviet regime. And quite the minimiser of the Holocaust.
Because the US atleast tries not to be a scumbag and can be reasoned with, for all the hyperbolic hipster bashing the US on here they are a great counter weight that stops the likes of China and Russia from ever getting power.
No sane person would want a country like Russia or China to ever be the dominant power in the world there governments are barely a step above nazis. And anyone that supports and defends the likes of Putin and Xi Jinping should be treated with contempt, No leader stays in power as long as those 2 without being evil they are dictators.
It's funny certain people going on about Afghanistan ,
Afghanistan was a pretty stable country that was a massive producer of fruit and vegetables to the global market ,
Until the Russians arrived then massacred the actual government before bombing the country back to the stone age , everything from bombing whole villages to chemical weapons attacks .
Good piece here explaining why "US and UK trying to fend off Russian invasion by making intelligence public"
A lot of us have suspected this new approach but it definitely seems confirmed now
"“What’s interesting is this information isn’t meant for Americans or British citizens. It’s meant for one consumer: Vladimir Putin,” Sipher said. “He’s the one who knows whether it’s true or not. So if we put out intelligence that the Russians thought was secret, and Putin knows it’s true, he’s got to decide how it has consequences for what he was trying to do, and how it’s affecting his strategy.”"
How does referring to the break up of a geopolitical union as a catastrophe, equate to playing down the holocaust? Your posts are not making much sense tbh.
The holocaust was a lot of things, but a "geopolitical catastrophe" is not one of them. The Jews were not a geographical or political grouping. They were an ethnic or religious group.
It would be far more apt, to refer to the holocaust as a human or humanitarian catastrophe. (or better yet an outrageous act of barbarism and cruelty)
If you're going to take umbrage at someone's quotes, at least take the time to understand them to even a basic rudimentary level.
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