I haven't seen a single poll showing support lower than 22 percent like you claim, the most recent poll shows 23.8 percent and the most recent one before that showed 25 percent.
It's good to know that anything worse than wanting to put asylum seekers in re-education camps would also qualify :)
I presume anyone not meeting that bar across FF/FG/SF/GP/Lab etc. is fine by you as well then, you know, next time you call for a government member to resign :)
way to prove his point
My opinion don't begin and end on party lines. Its very freeing.
we understand the mathamatics alright, we also understand how the system works up there and the fact is sf will be the majority paaty.
partition is coming to a gradual end as is sectarianism, get over it.
hardly, his point has been destroyed already.
i just threw in the final knail.
22% is not a majority.
it is as the rest of the vote is split between multiple other parties.
just like in the UK the tories unfortunately got the majority vote dispite only getting 43% as the rest of the vote was split across multiple parties.
50% plus one vote is a majority. Nothing else is.
Sometimes, as in the past with FF, a majority of seats can be got with around 47-48% under our PR system. The UK FPTP system is a very different one.
But nobody has ever got a majority with 22-27%.
@markodaly Can you point me in the direction of where Eoin O'Broin said, or was alleged to have said, that investment funds needn't worry about SF's rhetoric? I've seen this claim cited a lot over the last few weeks but I've been out of the loop on the news and despite a lot of searching, I haven't been able to find a source for this claim over the last few days. With everything that's happening, I fear I'm unlikely to ever find it if it was on Twitter or anything like that, there's been too much water under the bridge!
Where did you come across the story?
SF openly admitting they would appoint people with criminal convictions to advise them in any future SF led government. Is this some dystopian nightmare. Reminds me of Back to the Future II when he goes back to 1985 and criminals, thugs and biker gangs are ruling the place.
Is anyone surprised though.
But at the same time, it is truly astonishing that people would even consider giving them their vote. This country has never been more divided in my lifetime.
Though the Claire Byrne show excellent. Couldn't believe three convicted killers were deciding policy. Crazy stuff.
to be fair they would struggle to find advisors if they didn't.
Hardly surprising - it's the party of Terrorists, Thugs & Thickos.
The least you could have done was to provide a source for this information.
Well it reminds me of the foundation of the state when lots of people involved in government had been imprisoned prior to getting state jobs.
The pearl clutching doesn't do much for me but I guess its a good political tactic if it works though I doubt it will.
Everyone already knows that lots of people in Sinn Fein were Republican prisoners so its not like we're just finding it out now.
An organisation that was complicit in protecting the murderers of innocent people and pedo's would be happy to have criminals representing the country? I for one am shocked.
No, it would be people with convictions for IRA activities.
Many politicians and such do not have such convictions and most of them are probably fine people.
The electorate are aware of such and it's likely that the reason that SF are so high in the polls is out of respect, thanks and trust in those who fought for the Irish Republic.
I'd imagine they would try rename the phoenix's park after some idiots they sent to their deaths while attacking a police station or similar
Loughgall Park?
Imagine
'The electorate are aware of such and it's likely that the reason that SF are so high in the polls is out of respect, thanks and trust in those who fought for the Irish Republic.'
Well I don't know about that.
But basically they agreed to lay down their arms around 1996 or thereabouts. Unless they renege on that they're fulfilling their agreement to be peaceful and focus on the ballot box.
I can see why someone wouldn't accept it but its basically a tradition in Irish politics, and not just in the 1920s and 30s. Gilmore and other Labour people were mixed up in Official Sinn Fein at one point - another political party with an armed wing.
it's likely that the reason that SF are so high in the polls is out of respect, thanks and trust in those who fought for the Irish Republic.
But the people of the Republic were only voting for SF in miniscule numbers while their sidekicks in the IRA were actually 'fighting for the Irish Republic' and only really started voting for them in large numbers 20+ years after they 'gave up the fight'....
They’d be great in government.
[for about three days and the stark reality of what’s involved actually hits them… just like the brexiteers]
SecGen of Finance: “Sorry Mary Lou, we don’t actually have a warehouse of magic beans for you to pay for your schemes and dreams…”
I still can't believe that you can be a TD with criminal convictions. I would allow some degree of tolerance for minor traffic offences but as for the rest it says a lot about their character.
It's also a key part of the Good Friday agreement, suggest up to by the Irish government.
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/36/schedule/enacted/en/html
5. The Governments continue to recognise the importance of measures to facilitate the reintegration of prisoners into the community by providing support both prior to and after release, including assistance directed towards availing of employment opportunities, re-training and/or re-skilling, and further education.
Unless the present day Irish government thinks it can pick and choose what parts of the agreement or wasn't really serious about when they agreed and signed up to, I can't see why anyone who voted to accept the terms of the Good Friday agreement would have an issue with it
Opinions evolve.
People who were charged with IRA activities will not have a problem from most of the electorate.
Quite a few TDs, Ministers etc, many elected reps and leaders across Europe in the last 80 years have fought in conflicts.
nobody has suggested anything of the sort.
hmm, an old but inactive account reappearing to post on a SF thread and in some details as well. interesting.
The QE system is the magic bean system. People who were complaining about SF's 'magic beans' in February 2020 put almost the entirity of the real economy on subsidies in March 2020.
Right or wrong (its wrong) you can spend infinitely if you run up debts infinitely.
I'm looking forward to any sort of change from FF and FG in politics and am not particularly fussy who is in government once it is not them.
FF destroying the economy with the housing crash and FG selling out the youth is far worse in my view than what SF might do with senior appointments. I think people who still vote FF and FG haven't done particularly badly financially the last twenty years.
I'm not affiliated with any political party and just vote based on my personal view at the time of the election and how I think the next four years should look.
