They took part in the first one not the second one that happened the week before the election.
No fake news at all blanch apart from the word of one person who stepped in who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, I've already provided links verifying my claims.
You and others seem to be having a hard time dealing with SF/IRA success, the most popular party in Ireland North and South.
Wasn't it that SF weren't in the first debate (I think they were a rank outsider at the time, hence why they ran so few candidates) but joined in the later debates? MLM was in the debate on RTE a few days before the election:
www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=584277455463859
Did she miss the previous one on Virgin Media?
This was only a year ago so should be easy to establish :)
Go back to bed Harry, you are floundering here…….big time.
Apologies, after threats of legal action from Sinn Fein and widespread condemnation across Ireland, RTE at the last minute, the day before the debate reluctantly agreed to allow SF to take part in the leaders debate. Regardless it was a very sly attempt by RTE to try and influence the result of the election.
Apology accepted, and to be fair, the last time they let SF on, their blatant lies influenced the result of the presidential election ;)
(in reality, the popularity of SF caught them all by surprise at the time, including, crucially, SF themselves, after a very poor local elections showing).
RTE had no right to try and keep the second most popular party (according to polls at the time) from appearing on the leaders debate. Thankfully after threats of legal action and massive outrage nationwide RTE then realised they could not get away with this and did a U turn the day before the leaders debate and invited Mary Lou to appear on the debate.
Indeed you only had to look at the quality of candidates they lazily put out.
A rent dodger and charity defrauder; an antisemite (at least one); a few antivaxx headers etc etc.
You can find that sort of crap in any major political organisation not just Sinn Fein, sure I remember only a couple of years ago FG candidate Verona Murphy said we need to de programme asylum seekers as they have been infiltrated by Isis.
Plenty of morons in every political organisation.
Also "anti vaxxers" in FF/FG too. But like the SF ones its people asking questions and being hesitant. Calling them antivaxxers makes more of an impact if inaccurate.
Murphy was deselected by FG, I'm sure you'll be pushing for the same to happen to similar SF candidates from here on.
Did Sinn Feins leaders and Donald Trump go to the same school, a lot of the same tactics are being employed (your on number 1 here):
1. The mainstream media is the enemy of the people/ there is a broad conspiracy between the establishment and mainstream media to keep us out (it helps to cultivate this way of thinking because then as soon as a story is printed that shows you in a bad light, you can automatically discredit it as part of the conspiracy)
2. We are going to drain the swamp
3. All other parties are the same, we're different
4. Childish nicknames for opponents (sleepy joe/crooked hilary/mehole martin/Leo the leak etc etc)
5. Deflect,deflect, deflect. It doesn't matter how factual or pertinent the point is, it can always be countered with "Yeah but FF/FG did ......"
6. They stole the election from us/we were the rightful winners and are being excluded from government by the establishment
7. A cult like, unquestioning faith in the leadership
There's probably more but these are the obvious ones
She was deselected after the criticism got too much. FG knew her views prior. Anyway I spoke about all parties having people some call antivaxxers for effect.
And yes, any party with a Verona Murphy should get rid.
this is all fake news, sf and it's supporters do not engage in any of what you are claiming.
it wouldn't as it's simple democracy.
the DUP are so incompetent and enough are seeing it to move away from it to other parties, thank jesus.
meanwhile yes sf have gone down a tad but they are still going to be in the majority and have enough votes to carry them over thankfully and they are going to win.
the individuals have done their time and have been rehabilitated, they are therefore entitled to a second chance.
So, which of Veronas views or what she did meant she should be gotten rid of?
Putting asylum seekers in re-education camps. You didn't think that was it? Go on, scramble for a shinner equivalent :)
I never claimed that, although it's blatantly clear and obvious that some sections of the media, such as the independent have a hatred towards Sinn Fein.
The independent has been forced by the press council to apologize to Sinn Fein numerous times for making up fake news against Sinn Fein including extraordinary claims that Sinn Fein orchestrated a massive campaign of bullying and intimidation against RTE.
Look at the vote share from previous MLA elections
23% for SF will be their worst election for almost 20 years if you look at the vote share.
Again, all the talk is about the DUP and well, you say that SF will get 45% of the vote in an election in the South. ROFL.... not going to happen. Id bet all the money of the world on that!
There has been numerous studies done to show that SF supporters online are by far the most aggressive and dish out the most hate.
I guess you are going to say these studies are wrong and biased.
'Alternative' facts.... eh?
So the darling of SF Eoin o'Broin has been caught out claiming expenses he shouldn't have been.
Maybe it was the same time he was cosying up to developers and business telling them all to ignore the hard left SF rhetoric?
Eoin isn't the worst. A posh lad who spent too long in college; listened to the Wolfe Tones, and then decided to get into politics isn't the worst way SF get lads into power.
Getting the idea he is becoming persona non grata within the unique structures of SF.
Sinn Fein support will be slightly lower than it was in 2019 but it will be around the same or higher than 2017, most polls estimate they will get around 25% of the vote.
Their support has been constantly rising since the last election in the ROI, they currently stand at around 35 percent it's not that hard to believe that their support will rise to about 40% in the time for the next election like I claimed. Wishful thinking Mark, I can't wait to see the look on your face after the next election.
2020 was the 2nd worst election in FGs existence.
"are still going to be in the majority"?
22% is not a majority. It seems that Sinn Fein supporters continue to fail to understand the mathematics of elections.
Incredible stuff, and the mealy-mouthed excuses don't add up.
Amazing that Verona features in the Sinn Fein thread.
But seeing as someone said parties should get rid of their Veronas, how many SF TDs would be culled in such a scenario?
So SF support is not rising in the North... glad we agree.
I have to laugh at the spin. We have someone telling us that Sinn Fein will be slightly lower than before, when they could be losing up to 20% of their vote - 27.9% down to below 22%
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