The CEO Brendan McGrath, who's team was instrumental in creating a rubbish design for the Salthill bike lanes, talks on GBFM how all 18 councilors received abuse from all sides of the debate.
Just cycle a bit further out to leave room for doors, etc. One of the many reasons not to cycle too close to the edge. People tend to move in to the side to leave more space outside, but it's just making things more dangerous for themselves
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They're all on about the abuse they received. Has there been any information given on it?
Just a word of warning. People make stuff up on the Internet.
No, and I doubt there will be. Unless it gets to the level of physical threats or defaming, there's rarely little done or said about it
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To the poster that approached me in Centra this evening - that type of gloating over a cancelled project is uncalled for. I'm more than happy to meet anyone for a civilised chat, coffee or a pint and bounce around opposing views but I will not entertain that type of language when out shopping with my daughter.
The same few anti-cycling posters that are on both here and on social media are playing this like some kind of internet points game.
It's not "hilarious", what people are calling for is basic road safety for their families.
Life's too short, I'm out.
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My god
Wtf. The state of whoever did that. Embarrassing stuff.
Let it be water off a ducks back. You're one of the better posters here VW, always respectful to all points of view and willing to engage in honest debate on an in-depth level.
Try not to let d1ckheads like that get to you.
but that's just the point: it's NOT tiny, it was a huge interruption in normal traffic.
And, in other shock news, traffic contains...........vehicles. Some are even PSV.
If you want a 'temporary' cycle lane, there's an easy solution and see how it goes: the footpath on the prom is wider than a traffic lane for much of it's lenth. Cordon off half the footpath and trial that.
Jesus. Embarrassing that a presumably adult person would behave like that. You know well they're walking around thinking of themselves as a mature, logical person; when in reality they've just a 10 year old bully in an aging carcus.
Try not to let them bother you. Easier said than done but take solace in the fact that you only have occasional dealings with them while they have to spend every hour of every day with the nasty person that they are.
Fcuk off with that.
His business is in Dangan. What good would a cycleway from nowhere to nowhere (one end of the prom to the other end of the prom) do for his employees in Dangan?
It's great that it is finally being brought to attention what these Cycling groups are like
Yes, to the Guards. Brendan McGrath took a few minutes out from the meeting on Monday to provide a statement to them.
Disgusting that some should speak to you like that. Hope your daughter is ok.
To make a statement like that surely you are going to call out the poster here. Or did this incident happen at all? It sounds like you are too emotionally involved in the topic.
Edit. In reply to vanwildcard
Cycling infrastructure is not confined to the prom.
Unfortunately neither are the anti-cycling zealots, who will shoot down any and every proposal for safe cycling infrastructure.
I'm intrigued how you drew that conclusion. Can you give us an example of what "these cycling groups" are like? Or what has been said by anyone to suggest what "these cycling groups" are like?
Brendan McGrath took a few minutes out of the meeting in relation to a completely unrelated issue where a 'client' had visited the Council offices earlier that day and threatened staff over a grievance they had. Nothing to do with the cycleway and Brendan McGrath said as much in the interview linked to in your replay above.
Unfortunally that won't work... The Prom is just too busy with walkers...
If you had taken the time to listen to the clip, you would have learned that all 18 received abuse from both sides.
I am/was totally opposed to the proposals for the the Prom... Really thought they were bad bad ideas...
I proposed a different idea which I think would service more cyclists on a daily basis.
I have said here many times that building and trialing things is stupid without targets... Without stating what we consider success or failure...
I consider cycling adoption rates in Galway a failure... 2.5% of people cycle to work...
We should be setting a realistic target and then planing and spending to reach that goal..
20% was the last target written down in 2007... It was idiotic target, totally unrealistic... Unrealistic plans are the same as no plans..
I consider current number <add_any_percentage_here> of people driving to work in Galway City a failure as well and when I sit in a car in car traffic I a taking up all the current available space. The Ring Road which is a decade away is still the only plan.
What are talking about the Prom for?
N59 is wide enough for cycle paths on either side of it as it approaches IDA Dangan from Westside and Busypark. Start there I'd say.
route cause:
who came up with these two options?
poorly thought out and no stakeholder involvement.
I was all for a cycleway in salthill until i seen the two options.
dead duck
and yes, i am a fanatical cyclist!
regularly commute to work.
amazing how local government manage this in Budapest and everywhere in the Vendee France.
Literally the first line of the article:
"The head of a major Galway-based med tech company has criticised the failure to develop a cycle lane at Salthill promenade as a “lack of joined up thinking”."
He had to say that, though, didn't he? But it's telling that he chose to highlight the abuse directed at the Mayor. It wasn't the cycling campaigners who were screaming obscenities at her as she cycled around town.
I got involved in some of the social media discussions over the last few weeks, and was a spectator for others. The general tone from those supporting the cycleway was about offering explanations to counter misconceptions (the widely spread false claim that all blue badge parking was being relocated to Seapoint etc.) and generally polite explanations about their motivations, coupled with advocating for changes to the plans to better accommodate blue badge holders, the less mobile etc. But, from those against the cycleway, there were multiple calls for cyclists to be physically harmed, from individuals seemingly posting under their real names and feeling no shame in doing so. Rather than being condemned by others, these posts would get lots of 'likes'.
While I was coming at it from one perspective I have no doubt that an honest objective observer would also conclude that the abuse was definitely heavily weighted on one side.
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