Sacrolyte wrote: » If you want the levy removed from your milk cheque must you contact Ifa or processor?
whelan2 wrote: » What does EIF stand for?
paddysdream wrote: » Just ring the factory and ask them to send on a balancing cheque next working day .No big deal and no point in ringing IFA as they are but one of 3 organisations getting some of this. Had this issue couple of years ago .One factory where I go decided for some unknown reason to stop the IFA levy after not doing it for years .Rang as soon as I seen it on the sheet and had cheque in two days . It wasn't the amount but rather the principle . If people want to fund IFA ,ICMSA and Macra then no bother but it should be a simple opt-in levy with no fudging of who its for or what it is . EIF levy always looks semi official whereas IFA/ICMSA/Macra levy would be clearer .
Lime Tree Farm wrote: » EIF levy - didn't know that. Had a look at the most recent Mart docs. One has Hospice, icmsa,IFA,EU fund. All are 0 except EU fund, which I presume is fixed. The second mart has EU fund only
paddysdream wrote: » Think EU fund is another name for it .Same sh*t ,different name . There is definitely no statutory levy of that name as far as I know . Is it 0.15% of your gross sale figure ?
Lime Tree Farm wrote: » Yes it is. O.15 But why have they then listed the IFA and icmsa section as 0 - must admit I took all these deductions for granted.
Lime Tree Farm wrote: » Yes it is. O.15 But why have they then listed the IFA and icmsa section as 0 - must admit I took all these deductions for granted. Googled, you are correct, Irish independent article on it back in 2015 - unbelievable con
leoch wrote: » How far back can u claim or look for ur eif...ifa ...money back from Mart's or factoris
paddysdream wrote: » No idea as it only happened to me once and I rang about it as soon as I read the kill sheet and returns . Would it amount to a whole lot in most cases ? Probably get the auld spiel of "our records only go back x far " although would imagine any mart would be obliged to keep records for tax purposes for a few (8?) years minimum . Worth a try perhaps .Think there was a bit about all this a few years ago when IFA and Larry fell out over ,I think, the purchase of Slaney Meats .Not too sure how far back people got refunded at the time though .
Can you claim this fee back off the mart for past payments?
Was just looking at old dockets and realised there's a 'farm organisation fee' which totals nearly 50 euro (half a tank of diesel in the jeep) for last 2 years.
Rang mart and said you need to fill in a form to get out of it for future payments. Not sure about claiming back retrospective levies yet tho, I didn't ask that on the call.
Quickest way to get mart to stop taking it from your cheque is to inform them you are going else where because they don't stop making deduction.
After dawn deducted from me last year i was informed by local ifa office that it wasn't there problem my contract was with the processor if I didn't want to pay it I could deal with abp.
I believe there is no record of how much any organisation collects for the fund or keeps for administration.
Yea the whole thing is fairly shady.
Surprised to see this 'opt out' style levy is still a thing.
I thought the IFA got a kick up the hole around 2015 on this, the European Involvement Fund it was know then.
Blue in the face saying it, change the deckchairs/talking heads around in IFA all they like, it's the culture that stinks. That's why the opt out BS is still there.
On the opt out form (in fairly faded writing), a copy of this will be provided to the IFA to tailor their services.
Smells a bit like the priests years ago and their mass collections to be honest.
Cannot see the need for an opt out form .Just tell them to stop taking the money from your cheque .
No need to be filing out forms or anything.
Maybe to get them thinking ask where this stands re Gdpr .
Can you not just tell the factory stop taking the money and not be making such bloody compliment out of it, such bloody childishness.
Members of IFA are either happy with the system or too lazy to go to meetings if they're not.
I have zero sympathy now with the way Irish farming is going now as I'm finished.
The delivery of IFA lobbying has paid me well, (and still is paying me well) and thousands of real farmers similar to me
I'm telling posters on here to tell the factory agent not to take the levy since well before 2015, yet this complaining persists.
authors of their own demise
Just on that,a post on twitter said lately '' teh most profitable friesian bull calf now is a stillborn''....... makes you think !!!!!!!!
I find your last statement difficult to understand. I was of the opinion you had retired.
I do not know if I am a farmer, real farmer or waster. I do not have a large bfp, sucklers or a Vodafone mobile so the ifa have not spoke for me for the last 20 years so why should they be allowed to dip into pay without transparency or permission?
Can I take some of your rental income/bfp and keep doing it until you to request me stop?
90% retired, tax free leases was lobbied for by IFA and the contributory pension, even for my OH, so our lobbying is still paying off for me
It would've been a democratic decision when the levy was decided, there's meetings once a month in every county so unless you want to be spoon fed information it's out there for you. Levy is a fairer system for membership as there's such a difference in profit per acre for the different enterprise. It's like the GAA or any club there's plenty happy to leave a few to do the work...... and pay for the organisation.
Plenty prepared to ride on the coat tails of whichever organisation is doing the work for them
Love the new slogan "Levies for all, democracy for some!"
Majority of farmers would've been members of IFA when it was decided. We had some factory agents local that told farmers to stop the levy on all cattle they sent in so people round here can't claim ignorance
Laziness and leaving it to others would be a big part of the problem, either be a member and keep up or don't be a member, alot of the whingeing comes from non members. I never differentiated...... until now. If a farmer had a problem I'd never ask, but I would ask now if I was still there.
Members should get involved, non members get outa the way. They can't have resources now to help farmers that aren't paying so why should they As an ordinary member myself now I say it's a disservice to members that are paying
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