RTE Investigates have some great programmes. Tonights looks great!
Indeed , it covers a multitude of emotions, thoughts etc , but I think this one, very apt in covering this debacle 👀👀 or 🧐🧐
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This is it. It doesn't mean that they were not victims.
At the end of the day though lenders weren't and aren't repossessing from people who engage and make a reasonable attempt to service their debts based on their financial income. The courts just don't entertain banks trying to evict homeowners who are engaging and repaying something.
I do hope that Carey and her accomplices are dealt with properly and they don't get away with it.
Some of the victims not making payments because they thought the mortgage was being transferred is a bit like me switching my mortgage and not making payments during the 3 or 6 months process. It's mind boggling.
Not defending her but is it possible that she had a strategy and it backfired? Advise the clients to ignore the banks. Property gets put on BidX or wherever, she buys it and then provides a mortgage to the original owner?
I'd say myself (with no basis apart from a hunch) that the voice recording thing was a cover story, that Paul Murphy was tipped off or found out through some means that he couldn't disclose and came up with this vague recording analysis claptrap.
Unfortunately it was a scam from start to finish, it wasn't even a ponzi scheme, the BidX listing actually caught her out I believe, at least with one of the victim's.
It's the last paragraph of this article which is most telling for me. Wonder if she still has the same phone number.
The last paragraph is indeed very interesting. Think we know who the barrister was that recommended Catriona.
Hmmmmm, Barrister at law Degree 🧐🧐
I looked at her facebook page, the banner of which refers to charalegal.ie which does not exist nor can I see any history for it. The domain is currently available.
So when I did a search on it, it led me back to boards in the Freeman Megamerge thread. According to that thread, Ciara was a director of two other companies per CRO...
One of those companies (Watershed International Securities Limited) previously had Charles William Allen of Leighlinbridge, County Carlow as a director. The same Charles William Allen that is a director of Prior Park Assets CLG which has an interesting history.
Of course this Charlie Allen from Carlow may well be a different Charlie Allen from just across the border in a place called Prior Park in Kilkenny who we all know well in this thread.
She's not registered with the law library and doesn't seem to mention being a solicitor. Barristers aren't generally interested in training non professionals to represent themselves, that's the last thing they want.
That post you put up is as good if not better as the investigative programme last night...and nailed down where this scam got legs
I hope some journalists are taking the info from here and Twitter with the intention of breaking them all.
The team includes a lawyer, an accountant and experienced business people who have hands-on commercial experience. We can help put a business back on track and provide ongoing support. We can talk to the bank to help secure a deal to keep people in their homes or their business premises.
Very interesting indeed! They'll be hot under the collar today.
Not my work at all, Pencilsharpeneronwheels posted it earlier in the thread, it seemed to go unnoticed so i posted it again.
Both she and Catriona were also listed as employees of Watershed mentioned above
Well done pencilsharpeneronwheels on that info ....Carey will be the fall boy/girl it seems
In terms of her taking a fall a lot depends on the contracts those people signed. Aside from the fact that Caitriona can jump the country/eu.
RTE didn't show much of the contract. The verbal discussions she had with them are irrelevant. In black and white what product or service did she undertake to provide in exchange for the money. Then if that service wasn't provided you have a breach of contract. To get to a criminal level you would need to show additionally that Carey knew in advance that she couldn't and wouldn't be providing that service and knowingly deceived her marks on that point. That she hasn't been criminally charged up to this point is worrying. Particularly if she and her accomplices routed that money to the usual havens abroad and will themselves go on the lam. Even if she ever is charged I would think there is zero chance of the victims getting their money back.
Well she'll have to prove that she engaged the lenders with a view to buying the distressed loans. If she can't do that then she is in breach. Start have already said to numerous borrowers that they have no record of her making any approach regarding their mortgages.
Let there be no ambiguity here. If AGS and the DPP want to make a case and bring it to court it wouldn't be overly problematic. It's a big if though.
I Agree...but the clients of this scheme all seem to have Carey as their main contact in the programme even though it now looks like a organised network involving other contacts Carey was involved with
I'm certainly not an expert on contracts but I'd be sure they'd have had more use if rolled up and used as Toilet paper.
Nothing in them could have legal standing as they would be based on assumptions that would be near impossible to achieve. There is the Deposit return but we've not even seen what if any guarantees were offered regarding their return. Your completely correct , absolutely Zero chance of any money being returned, albeit I have a niggling feeling one or two already have their money back and possibly with interest, so to speak 😉
Barrister suspect is on the board of Firhouse Credit Union !
agree or would have gone to garda immediately instead of listening to excuses for two years. the guy who had the truck business and bought his parents business, sounds like he wanted out of his responsibility. The person who filmed her was pretty smart, not the sort to be scammed
Cateriona was right not to talk to the journalist though. They are not gardai. youdon't even have to talk to a garda. The victims should have gone to the garda in the first instance
Absolutely you will not be fcuked out in this country if you make an effort to engage banks rather something than nothing these are freeman on the land types who thought the bould Catriona would help them get one over on the banks fcuk her and fcuk them.
The woman in Cork and the fella in Dublin seem to be genuinely struggling the rest are where they are because of bad business practices they borrowed money they shouldn't have and are trying to get away without paying it back. Her and her crew here are simply continuing the 2013 scam run by Charlie.
Of course they were looking for the easy way out and Catriona offered it to them the greedy and the stupid are the best prey.
The company was never regulated by the central bank so didn't have the authority to negotiate with the lenders in the first place.
Mother of God, I wonder was there some cheap Loans approved from there recently
She,Carey, should team up with the Tinder Swindler!
Start mortgages have been around for years. Surprised you never heard of them, they constantly been mentioned in the media.
The thing is that lenders cannot sell loans to entities who are not authorised by the central bank.... Therefore even if she genuinely saw a way of helping people while also making a profit for herself (which she had no intention of anyway), none of the lenders would have engaged with her. So the whole thing was a scam.
I suppose these mortgage only companies more so than the traditional banks and building societies may be easier to get a mortgage from but more ruthless if repayments are not being paid on time
Start are in the business of purchasing distressed mortgages at substantial discounts and are ruthless in every respect . As far as I'm aware to don't underwrite new mortgages, just manage ones they've purchased at substantial discounts. They are also the most proactive in relation to seeking repossessions
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