Are we really that desperate for people to prop up the pension pyramid scheme?
That about it?
Spot on. We can trace it back to Enda Kenny really.
Gifted a majority, an electoral mandate, and once-in-a-lifetime chance to actually CHANGE the business of politics in this country, he squandered it for his lot's turn at the trough, and then made it worse by further diluting the make-up of the Dail and Government following years of scandal after scandal so he could be the only FG Taoiseach to "get" a consecutive term.
That gave us 'bring them all home' Zappone, and ultimately the weak, ineffective/paralysed Varadkar Government which succeeded in making FF electable again, but as they weren't ready we ended up with Micheal Martin at the helm at a time when clear decisive leadership was the most needed it's been in decades!
This is why I say that FG are actually WORSE than FF - we just haven't seen it as much because they have historically not been in Government much, and then only until they make FF electable again (as happened again!)
I fully expect that Helen will be Taoiseach yet and much will again be made of how far we've come (as it was when Leo took office), but very shortly thereafter we'll realise that there's a lot more to effective Governance and leadership than Twitter likes and trends!
Of course, by that stage it'll be far too late and just as we saw an exodus from the worst estates in the 90s as people who could got out, we'll see the demographic and social order consequences on a national scale. It's already started in certain parts of Dublin and north Leinster, but you can be sure that it'll not stay confined to that and the Gardai (for all their faults) will not only be ill-equipped to deal with it, they'll be politically hamstrung for fear of appearing "racist".
The future... coming soon to an Ireland near you!
Well done on proving my point
It was a silly, loaded question, which does not deserve a response
It’s always comes back to the food. It must be the most tedious trope rolled out whenever immigration is discussed.
As for McEntee, I’ve made this point several times, but she truly is the most low caliber, vacuous public representative ever to ascend to that position. She’s the person who has been promoted beyond her ability at work and sits in every meeting with a gormless, vacant look on her face. It’s pretty obvious that Varadkar and Simon (yes, I am a disciple of Peter Sutherland) Coveney are pilling her strings behind the scene.
Really? You label people "extreme bigots" and then have the neck to talk about attacking the post, not the poster?
Seriously?!
Better restaurant and takeaway options... More doctors... or something!
It's absolutely ridiculous that McEntee and co are enabling this without a mandate or support from the general public. We have more than enough problems that aren't being dealt with, and McEntee thinks we should add to those for "de feelz". The most outrageous thing is that she will likely be rewarded for this nonsense while the rest of us deal with the fallout. It's already started.
An amnesty wouldn’t be a one off and it will encourage more people to go the illegal route as it will have worked for others.
a year after the first one every poxy NGO and the extreme left… “ ok, another, we need another “…
"due to a technical issue whereby more than three years must pass since the deportation order, which is about a year away"
So they can't apply for the scheme because they haven't refused to leave the country after being asked to/refused asulym for long enough?
Jesus Christ, this scheme is the gift that keeps giving.
The article pretty much validates what many on here have said about the media approach to immigration here. Its not a technicality, its the eligibility rules as written. Taking resources away from genuine asulym seekers for six years.
a bit of schadenfreude here, they tried every trick in the book to not be deported, claiming asylum falsely etc, court appeals, studying BS in DCU they cannot now apply for the amnesty. good enough for them.
Whats the point in ever having a deportation order if every time a decision is made the local do gooders mount a campaign to get it overturned and the system itself allows them to go to The High Court and taxpayers here foot the bill.
And now we have an incompetent Justice Minister who is seems reluctant to deport anyone out of our country.
Precisely…
you broke the law you get rewarded.
you follow the correct procedure, the country, eu and bogie law breaking illegals give you the middle finger.
there is zero benefit to Ireland or the Irish public l
There’s no war in Pakistan that I know of. We’ve plenty of doctors, nurses and students who visit Ireland and return no problem.
this shows both a lack of respect for ourselves and towards those people who apply for work visas through the proper channels
It was a question, not an assumption. Do you believe that everybody who disagrees with you on illegal immigration is an extreme bigot?
Why do you think?
What a silly assumption to make
The willingness to attack the poster rather than the post would indicate that I am not far wrong
You rarely have a post without the word bigot or racist in it?
Yet you previously declared yourself one of the intelligent people who has a greater understanding than everyone else. Delusional
We are too welcoming and generous, needs to stop
Point to where I said all of them will live off the state.
Are you saying none of them will live off the state?
They are working for pittance because they are breaking the law of this country and being exploited by businesses who should also be charged for exploitation.
Likewise a lot of employment they currently have will be gone because the businesses exploiting them won't give them minimum wage.
Point out to me how this is good news for tax paying irish citizens including those who moved from abroad and followed the rules to get citizenship.
Would you think that everybody who disagrees with you is an extreme bigot?
So you don't assume they will all live off the state? And then you go on to say why they will live off the state🙄
Perhaps they are working for pittance because they are illegal and don't have any choice? Once legal, a lot more employment will open up for them.
This might cheer up some of the more extreme bigots
Very true, 30+ years ago, I worked in a clothing factory in Dublin employing 550 people.
no longer viable to make clothes here, the company now in the far east, industries dependant on cheap labour, simply can't operate here
I'm not sure a Daily Mail article is a strong basis for anything, regardless of the topic
Who said to assume all of them are going to live off the state?
I assume the employers who are paying them pittance are not going to start paying them all minimum wage.
If the employers won't pay them minimum wage and you now qualify for the dole, medical card, moved on to a housing list why wouldn't you live off the state.
Also the reason none of them live of the state now as you are well aware is because they don't have that option.
So, just assume all foreigners are going to live off the state? They don't do it now, there's no reason to believe they will in the future.
Here is just one of the many ways the illegal immigration scam in Europe is allowed to flourish. Schemes like ours only encourage this. Ordinary Europeans continue to pay the price.
Numbers entering Europe are going through the roof, Half a million claiming "asylum" every year, huge numbers of family reunifications, resettlements, untold numbers of illegals etc. etc.
Governments throughout Europe refusing to deport people because it'll make them look bad.....
They were living here ilegally so unless I am wrong they could not apply for the housing list or social welfare.
They probably had several people crammed into an apartment where they can now all apply for social housing and social welfare.
These people are more than likely working in low paying jobs where they will most likely pay little or no tax.
The social welfare will probably pay as much if not more than employers who were exploiting them were paying, so why wouldn't they apply.
They are living here illegally and have broken the law, they should be shipped out of the country.
It's not citizenship.
These people already live here so no extra accommodation required.
It's a benefit because it will bring more people into the tax net, it stops employers from taking advantage of illegal immigrants with regards to working conditions and they themselves not paying correct taxes
100% true.
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