Probably because no matter what you are represented,you will always have an excuse to put to the blame on someone else
Stupid moves like attacking the Ukraine while having a piss poor economy isn't going to aid them in the quest of challenging the us as world leader now is it ?
Why can't you just comment on the post, why do you insist in personalizing the debate and insulting the poster? Can't handle that some people hold a different opinion?
Sounds like he needs a trip to Russia and China
That person is head and neck into all the conspiracies, YouTube, etc. He is convinced of all this New World Order stuff. He also believes that people will be forced into re-education camps to receive the right opinion. He is Irish. He deplores Ireland with a passion and its “socialist” policies (yet, he damn well benefits from it). In his Narrative, the West is rotten, controlled by the hands of a few depraved individuals. Russia and the extreme Republicans. You couldn’t make it up.
Yes Russia have done a great job with its hybrid warfare and disinformation campaigns in Georgia,Ukraine and Crimea.
Some people would give an arm and leg to be able to bash US instead of actually looking at the facts and Russias involvement.
And some simply live in denial no matter what you represent to them
I am scared about the people reading the forum who will believe the clear propaganda. And then decent posters, like Yurt, who are clearly well versed in their subject are kicked off the thread
Does the programing go all pear shaped when the overall majority of people on a thread aren't 'pro' Americans. And are just... Pro humanity and call out crap from wherever it comes from?.. I'd say it goes bananas.
Were back to putins awesome again.... What did I mention above...
Two things.
1. Putin isn't going to hug you for defending him on random Irish forum.
2. It's quite possible for America to be wrong.... And wait for it.... Russia to also be wrong.
In this current scenario a dictator who murders his opponents at home and abroad and steals billions from his citizens is being lauded by odd thinking people. He's attacking a neighbour who wanted to join an economic market to better its economy and thus its own citizens quality of life. How very noble and how very noble of you to defend these actions. Must feel reeeeal powerful.
Or contrary for the sake of it..
I was speaking to an Irish Trump supporter in real life. He was so convinced that the Biden regimen is truly evil. He has much more faith in the Russians. Despite my attempts to point out some basic facts, it was impossible to have any form of meaningful discussion with him. In the US, it is now so polarised with right and left. People have been fooled into thinking that they have more in common with the outside people rather than those with “crazy, liberal” values. Divide and conquer
Seems like you are doing a great job representing Tsar Putin as well,Comrade
Are you on Prigozhins payroll maybe
Nope, your comparing Crimea to NI doesn't work.
Look at the demographics of Crimea:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Crimea
It's overwhelming Russian.
People commented back when the USSR collapsed that Crimea looked like an anomaly that it would find itself part of a nation state called Ukraine and not Russia. And guess what? Lines on maps change because the people within those regions decide to change them.
No, you're quite right on that score Kermit.
It has actually taken the US and NATO many decades to get their weapons of war closer to the border of a sovereign state - something they agreed not to do btw.
But hey, if the west does it, it must be to keep the peace, right? Because we all know the western powers have been great at "keeping the peace"... just look at how peaceful the world has been the last 20 years! They even co-opted the "religion of peace" into their world peace efforts. Bravo west, great job!
Deliberately stepping on the toes of powerful nations like Russia and China, is not an effort towards keeping peace. This is an American led western power grab. Nations like Russia cannot be allowed to get too powerful, as they pose a threat to American and western hegemony. This isn't about Russia's threat to the world or their neighboring countries, this is about keeping Russia from challenging for global leadership.
It's not going to work, though. American dominance is fading every decade, and Putin can see the giant cracks opening up. China can too. Another war will not solve America's problems as an ailing super power. It won't even help to distract or cover them up. And I think Putin is far too clever to give them what they're looking for anyway. He'll keep playing the long game. We're facing into a cold war 2.0 - Russia's chance to rectify some historical mistakes they made in the soviet era.
You've been banging the American drum for over a year now. There has been no invasion.
Thankfully nobody important takes you seriously.
The cyberwar is as it as ever been in full flight. Between useful idiots and actual accounts designed to mimic local parlence an automated waffle spreader that reacts to response is incredibly simple to construct folks would be amazed what can come out when you plug one into multiple language library sources.
Coupled with the consitent and increased threat of cyber attacks through mail intrusion. Like our own HSE. My own place has experienced an absolutely weird uplift in really poor and really sophisticated malware attempts over the last two weeks. Having had nothing of note for years.
These things don't occur in isolation. Even on this platform.
The United States is not the one who has put over 130,000 troops as well as 1000's of tons of tanks/equipment as well as nuclear capable Iskander missiles on the borders surrounding a sovereign country in recent weeks on three sides, is it?
Here was me being made to believe that propaganda only came from the bogey man's side of this.
War machine person giving lead role in an article to push for war.. well I never, the western powers would never look to fool their people into a war
Iraq
No, its very strange. And if I was China's Xi Jinping or North Korea's Kim Jong-un ( or indeed anyone else at that level world wide ) listening to that, then I'd be getting seriously worried about Mr. Putin's behavior, as I'm sure that his close circle of friends in the Kremlin are. ( unless of course it's all part of the script??? ) But to anyone else, it reads like (1) a threat, Give me what I want, or I'll pull the plug. (2) If you do not give me what I want, then what happens is all your fault. Chess??? But I will say this, there's a part of me hoping and praying that all of "invasion talk is Bullshit" posters are right.... and I'm wrong. Worrying times.
Like agreements can only be written and signed..
Verbal agreements is a thing
I often reference this. Some things have already appeared to have happened on this manifesto.
"The United Kingdom, merely described as an "extraterritorial floating base of the U.S.", should be cut off from Europe."
"Ukraine should be annexed by Russia because "Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics". Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible."
"Georgia should be dismembered. Abkhazia and "United Ossetia" (which includes Georgia's South Ossetia) will be incorporated into Russia. Georgia's independent policies are unacceptable."
Georgia is currently proposing trying for EU membership within the next year or so. I'd say that's a big no-no from the Russian perspective.
"Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics"."
Sure, some of the stuff in this book is so off the wall it won't happen but there is definitely an ideology in play.
Europe shouldn't be buying anything from Putin, comrades should be more concerned about the pipelines in Western Ukraine.
Think so, Scholz will come under incredible pressure from allies to stop it. Still think it'd be safer to put several large holes in it, just in case.
Didn't Biden day during the week that if Russia invades, it would be the end of NS2.
@agoodpunt do not post in this thread again
Same can be said for the pipelines on East Ukraine.
If kilometres of sub-sea fibre optic cable can go missing, I don't see why an undersea pipeline - not currently in use - can't go missing either. Even noisily... Those delinquent whales at it again 🙄
Yes. The people of Russia will miss the sausage women and all the rainbow flags.
You around the 5 lamps? By any chance.
Kicking them out of the Eurovision is surely a step too far?
Edit...can't delete. I see post was done already.
Basically nothing will happen. You don't need to stay in mom's basement. Once the oil flows pockets grow.
Not at all. They're not even Europeans, unlike the Australians and the Israelis.
To Siberia with them.
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