I can't remember ever seeing this side of putin , normally he sits there with a sly smile on his face, he's seems to have let the mask slip during that outburst ,
What's the movie saying the devils greatest trick was convincing the world he didn't exist ..
I don't get where he's going with nato putting nukes in Ukraine , ukraine gave it it's nuclear weapons to Russia ,so what makes anyone think Nato want nuclear weapons in every country
Ah yes, Ahherelads... and another "its all the fault of the US " poster. Carry on, we've heard that one before...... lots of times !!!.
Repeat. NATOs border with Russia is 400km longer than the Northern Ireland border. Encroachment my Arse.
Actually, the US has been warning that if ND is out into operation,much of Europe will be beholden to Putin. And their warnings are coming to fruition now
Ok comrade. This is an insightful take. Can you tell us more.
Maybe read what Putin says before you comment. He's not talking about an invasion, he's talking about Nato encroachment on the Russian border. The US is the one stoking this, they want Nord stream stopped at all costs.
WOW, where did the usual calm in complete control Mr. Putin go???? Obviously not his usual stage managed question and answer session, for sure. Are we seeing, for the first time the real Vladimir Putin???..jumping ahead into a future scenario, that just will not happen but he is preempting to justify a nuclear attack??? Seriously, whoever is advising him, needs to have a long hard chat with him. World wide, you can almost hear the Silo's being checked....his new found friends in China ( and elsewhere ) must be having serious second thoughts. Destroying Europe, and America Comrade? Da, Spassiba, but the rest of the planet??? NYET !!!
Bit harsh kicking them out of the Eurovision song contest...
What is Putin's real game here? If he invades Ukraine well that is too obvious and then there is enormous downsides for him, even if it goes well militarily what does he really gain?
Is the real game to turn off the big liberal movements in Europe because by threatening Europe he makes Europe reassess and go back to basics , it turns Europe more conservative again and makes it more palatable for Russia to open up to Europe again. Putin knows he can't keep Russia in deep freeze forever but maybe he can change Europe somewhat
Post World War II the idea in Europe was that in future war would be avoided by economic interdependence. We now see the tragic unintended consequences of that idea, as business interests rail against sanctions on Russia even as they are preparing to crush a major European democracy.
The oil and gas market is what keeps Russia afloat. Once thats not sanctioned then not much will change.
While I would agree with you for the most part, just wait and see the US launch economy busting sanctions while euros nations faff and bluster themselves into a lather.
Easier said then done. A few student/goat herders knocked out the Twin Towers and changed the world forever. Imagine what a country with Russia's reach could do if cornered.
If Putin invades the rest of Ukraine, Russia should be entirely cast out of the international community. Chuck them out of the Olympics, World Cup, Eurovision song contest in addition to the most stringent sanctions possible. Full scale cyber warfare, foment internal chaos in Russia, take out Kadyrov in Chechnya, arm Georgia.
And NATO needs to arm Ukraine to the absolute teeth.
Putin needs to be Ceaucescued.
Whole raft of previously skeptical EU states now advising their citizens to evacuate Ukraine immediately.
This is an intriguing account with many hot takes. Your input is incredibly interesting. Maith an buachaill
I lived in Russia agoodpunt, and for several years at that. Made a lot of friends, good friends at that. You get to know them, they get to know you, and they're the finest. There's nothing wrong with Russian people as as whole....now the management...that's a whole different ball game., and they ( the Russian people ) all suffer under the " Management " too.
Can't see how Ukraine makes them want a nuclear war. How do you see it unfolding.
Have a look at putin losing it and threatening nuclear war
https://youtu.be/RJXwLzII278
Lets say Russia should get the same sanctions as them then.
whataboutism,The technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.
US Government formally warning NATO member states that their intelligence is that Russia will launch its military operation on February 16th, perhaps sooner. Two days of intense aerial bombardments followed by a large scale ground offensive. Historic week ahead.
NATO ambassdords currently convening an emergency meeting, which is noteworthy in and of itself.
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Quick, look over there!
Thats where Russias military and tactics was changed from.
And it will be same tactics used in Ukraine,no doubt.
But if you want to take Kiev,you need some urban fighting regardless,but not without civilian casualties,like in Grozny,where thousand was killed.
It will be bloody
I was thinking the same when Nato went into Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and then Syria. Not one sanction for any western country.
It will be bloody no doubt on both sides,but i still believe the Russians have the upper hand with their airforce and missiles,and combat experienced battle hardened troops and EW.
It all depends on Ukraines tactics and willingness to fight in the long run.
And if they give Russia a bloody nose early it might be enough to halt the invasion,atleast for a while
When VP took over Russia it was not long after a humiliating truce in Chechnya. They learned a lot from that and totally changed the military from the ground up, that was urban combat at its finest, the second time they went Back it was leave or be levelled. They will apply that method in UKR. Test out some weapons in the mean time to.
Exactly,and with the worlds attention and journalists covering the conflict it will be hard to cover up anything.
And questions will be asked alot more about Putins leadership as well back home in Kremlin when the russian people have had enough.
@[Deleted User] I guess that was with seperatists backed by russia and russian equipment,now its the full force of the russian land forces and airforce
No Russian forces with Russian equipment ,
If definitely won't be a massacre but it will get bloody , Russia won't have it all their own way , ukraine has spend over 100 billion in the last few years on defense and modernisation of their military,
When Yanukovych was in charge he placed Russian military /citizens in charge of military and defense and intelligence who fleeced and downgraded the Ukrainian military over a few years , hence the Inability to stop the Russians taking Crimea ,and I get the feeling ukraines neighbors might not just stand by and let them get rolled by the Russians
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