Nice announcement but is there anywhere we can see the comprehensive list of schemes
see bottom of the official press release, 2nd doc has detailed breakdown of funding per LA
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/d7028-over-a-quarter-of-a-billion-euro-to-be-invested-in-irelands-walking-and-cycling-infrastructure-in-2022/
It should be noted that virtually everything on the list is old stuff previously announced. In many cases the funding has already been announced/released so there's a bit of fake news (hate using that term) about this.
That's not to say it's not fantastic to see the list getting longer and longer each year. Hopefully by the end of the current govt this will be a massive annual list
Not sure how announcing where and on what expenditure will be spent in 2022 is fake news. It wasn't stating these are new projects.
Progress being made in Kerry...
Feb 15th for a start to works on the Sallins-Aylmer Bridge section of the Grand Canal greenway
https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/732318/kildare-county-council-progresses-development-of-grand-canal-greenway.html
Galway is maintaining its reputation as the anti-greenway county
When the saga in the courts regarding the South Kerry Greenway finally concludes, we'll have legal certainty regarding the validity of CPOs for greenways, and other greenway schemes will then hopefully be able to move forward with less obstacles thrown in their way.
In the meantime though, expect more of the above...
This notion that some farmers have about their land that only they can decide what happens to it is wrong. From the article "In the case of the South Kerry Greenway, the High Court ... Judge found that the impact on property rights was taken in a lawful manner in the public interest. Those objecting to the route are currently in the process of appealing the High Court decision to the Supreme Court."
One might invite people like that to read the Irish Constitution (43.2.2) "The State ... may as occasion requires delimit by law the exercise of the said rights [to private property] with a view to reconciling their exercise with the exigencies of the common good." i.e. it is perfectly acceptable for the state to procure land by way of CPO if the common good requires it - and no appealing to the Supreme Court is going to change that. Of course, anyone can take a case that the CPO that affects them is not in the common good, but it's the High Court where that will be decided. The Supreme Court isn't going to adjudicate on particular cases, but more on the general point of law. The South Kerry Greenway may be "in the process of appealing", but that doesn't mean that the Supreme Court will accept the case.
Indeed. The appellants are arguing that there are general points of law that need adjudicating on though.
Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for the Supreme Court to hear the leave to appeal case and hopefully they'll refuse leave to appeal.
Theoretical question. Suppose Tipperary Co Co decided that they wanted to build a Clonmel to Horse & Jockey Greenway along a long closed and locally reclaimed branch line that used to run from Clonmel to Thurles. Would this property legally have to give up its garden? (Make sure you look both sides of the bridge)
County Tipperary
https://maps.app.goo.gl/rbzAjkbe2sCXzR8T6
In a case like that, to be honest its unlikely the greenway would be routed through that property unless the owner had some aspirations towards opening a service (cafe/hostel/camping etc) for users. I don't know the line but from the looks of it the route is long gone so would suffer from adverse possession or being sold off a la the Kerry situation.
As for would they have to give it up if it was routed that way, it would come down to whether a CPO was made for it. In some instances it may make sense to avoid following the old route e.g. a variation in the route could offer better options in terms of providing services (parking, toilets, cafe, visitor center , playground etc).
Where a CPO would be put forward for the property in question, its very likely it would cover the whole property as is usually the case with the likes of road construction where it would severely impact on the quality of life if the owner was to remain.
In cases such as this there are a lot of options and a lot of variables so its not possible to say 100% what could happen
Kilbeggan link to the Grand Canal Greenway officially opened.
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Hehe they said Muff got laid 🤭
Hopefully it's not Richard Keys (ex Sky Sports) doing the tarmacing.
Do you know how long that section is?
Another 5km has just gone to public consultation;
I dont have any details beyond the tweet
Looking at their twitter, they have the following in their profile, so I'm guessing this is what the end results will look like. No idea what stage they're at with the various routes
Imagine if the rail line from Navan to Kingscourt got converted. It'll pass through the village of Nobber.
Construction of the long-planned South Kerry greenway will go ahead following the Supreme Court’s refusal to allow leave for two appeals.
The project, along the abandoned rail line skirting the Ring of Kerry, will start at Glenbeigh and finish outside Cahersiveen, running for about 30kms over spectacular scenery and old bridges overlooking Dingle Bay.
Non-paywall version
This bodes well for other greenways where folks threaten court actions because of CPO's
"CPO's are not valid for greenways", actually it turns out they are
That's some project. Could someone put up a streetview link to see what the road looked like before.
https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.280926,-9.8014565,3a,75y,150.66h,75.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sZB_zDKIne49QKpiqwljhnQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
Thanks, seems a bit overkill for what could be a straight forward kissing gate level crossing if you ask me. You can see from the streetview that it was a level crossing back in the day going by the yellow gate keeper cottage still in use today.
Great news, I wonder if we will see it open before 2026, can't imagine construction will start until 2023, and surely take at least 2 years to complete it, be lucky to have it by summer 2025 I'd say. Still though, can't wait.
Kissing gates are the work of the devil.
The money's available, might as well do it right first time. The difference between a route with lots of kissing gates and a route with underpasses can be pretty big. That road looks reasonably quiet so I understand your point, but maybe that road is heavily used by traffic between Tralee and Barrow beach or something.
Has public access on/off the greenway been preserved at that underpass? The original drawings didn’t show any but I saw a tweet which referenced it being retained off the back of public consultation (great outcome if true!)
I'd be very surprised if a greenway didn't have access from a road it intersects.
Looking at Google Maps satellite imagery, there is space for it... https://www.google.ie/maps/@52.2809921,-9.8013763,72m/data=!3m1!1e3
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