Battle of the O’Briens.
When elected SF will build 1000s of new homes for non-nationals.
I was surprised by the debate to be honest. I felt Eoin was a bit of a spoofer but I thought this debate should have been easy enough for him. Darragh came off as being more informed about what is possible. Eoin was unable to explain how we can get to 40k houses. I was trying to understand what Eoin meant by councils building or buying homes and selling them as affordable homes. Are they really going to buy on the market and sell cheaply?
I suppose it depends on your circumstances as to which party will be better. If you don't work and are waiting for the state to house you, SF are the best option. If you are working and are looking to buy, unfortunately the incumbents are probably the best option.
Eoin is the SF prodigy, the rest of the party are completely clueless. I would love to hear Mary Lou tell us that David "up the r@" Cullinane has great ideas for the health service.
Reign in judges? Are SF planning to abolish the separation of powers in the state? Thats veering toward totalitarianism.
I am curious about the idea that SF are not corruptible.
I am literally saying it's not that SF aren't incorruptible, it's that they aren't part of the "official Ireland" style nepotism networks
SF can be corrupted and are no better than any political party when it comes to ethics....
just look at the Jonathan Dowdal case.. water boarding and now up in front of the special criminal court for the biggest gangland event in the history of the state.
Do you think he was incorruptible because he was a SF councilor?
My point is that there will always be bad eggs in every political party and saying that one political party has better ethics and is less corruptible than another is bull.
Another example is covid restrictions SF ignored them with their big funeral up the north and gave two fingers up to everyone that had to watch a funeral of a family member online. FF/FG were no better with their golf gate and other incidents.
Very few people consider the practicalities of building houses. O’Brien referred in the debate to unlocking ‘capacity’, but that’s self-defeating jargon if he doesn’t spell out what it means.
Yep. Great at shouting that there's a problem, but no real details on the fix. Bottom line is no-one is going to magic up new homes unless we make all land free of charge, pay the workers building them third world wages, somehow get hold of materials at a fraction of their market price, remove all fire hazard requirements and other regulations, and magic up new land in the city where we can actually build these new magic houses.
Unless we do all of that, then the prices ain't coming down.
I more mean that they will have their influence vastly reduced, the legal sector badly needs reform as an example it's something the EU wanted so not exactly a radical thing.
These groups have always been a priority and apart from maybe developers/builders they aren't actually wealth creators people that grow the economy.
I also think weirdly SF might be stronger on crime and reign in the judges which is a concern for a lot of their base.
Basically my point isn't that SF are very effective and can't be corrupted. It's that they don't have the generational loyalty to "official Ireland" and the same back and forth between them, republicans to some extent having been traditionally sort of shut out from them.
It's my hope anyway but as I said I don't actually expect SF to be very effective
in the uk, when a council house becomes available, it is simply offered to the next person on the list, as it is... Maybe should be adopted here. If you are getting as good as free housing, beggars cant be choosers.
I've been keeping an eye on O'Broin since he was a regular and favoured 'guest' on O'Eadhra's Late Debate. Always struck me as a nasty piece of work. Maybe he has the wits to make a difference but I kinda doubt it. He knows the brief, is great at swinging between sniping and promising - but will that lay any blocks? Could he lay a block himself?
The USA is the only country I can think of that can run a huge unsustainable public debt and can only get away with it because they the dollar is the reserve currency of the world.
If the dollar ever got replaced with a electronic currency that became the reserve currency of the world you would see hyper inflation in USA over night.
Why does anyone rent anything then? Budgets are finite, buying 200 properties would cost roughly €80m, that houses 200 families, if I rent instead then I can house 4000 families instead, now it's not just one or the other, but there has to be a mix if the budgets are to be sustainable (with renting, the owner also has to pay for refurbishing, as pointed out above, the council is much slower and more expensive doing it themselves).
A new kind of dog whistle!
I don't know, but I would imagine buying 200 properties (probably at a discount) and owning those properties, is still better value then renting them forever.
the 'native' Irish? is this a new kind of irish person?
I'd imagine as soon as they were bought out those at the top would leave, form a separate company and then charge the council for those services (it's what I would do).
There is a reason private enterprise doesn't get bought out by public institutions.
What's the cost of buying 200 houses vs. paying the rent on 200 houses? What budget do the councils have to spend?
It made for pretty poor watching. I dont think Daragh is strong when it comes to debate and I expected Eoin to be prepared. He simply wasnt.
Saying we need more houses is as obvious as it gets.
Im no expert but houses are being snapped up all over the country which tells me that plenty of people can afford to buy. There is no shortage of people being mortgage approved and having the finances ready to go.
I just dont think the housing issue will be solved anytime soon and I dont think any party is really up for the task.
We will all take a beating
The only people Eoins rainbow army will punish are joe taxpayer and the native Irish
Apologies if I have misunderstood, but are you saying you vote SF in the hope they will "punish" certain sectors of society?
How will they decide who deserves punishment, and what form will it take?
The experience in many other countries has been that electing parties who wish to negatively target a particular sector of the population, ends in catastrophe for everyone.
He has obviously no experience in building but also completely oblivious to the well publicised facts that councils are failing miserably to refurb their own existing stock when it comes free never mind being able to purchase and rebuild another 5000 per year, hes delusional!
Honestly the government should take their billions and just buy out Cairn homes or Glenveagh, give them access to public funding, public land banks, part 8 planning via each local council and set them to work on doing what they actually know how to do, building homes!
I mean f#ck me they are the easiest things in the world to build but we keep hearing how our various council and government depts full of highly qualified, well paid architects, engineers and quantity surveys are somehow not up to that task 🤪
Just don't bring back Mick Wallace to run the thing 😄
So build lots more social housing and don't bother if the rents get paid.
If the state actually own properties, the fact that some are in arrears isn't much of a big deal really, it's arrears, it isn't debt written off as such.
for example, the state own 200 houses in one estate, 120 houses are in arrears, the state still own 200 houses and they may receive those arrears.
if the state pay HAP for 200 households to live in private landlord properties, then they pay out hundreds of thousands a year in rents, with absolutely nothing for themself, no assets for the state, just money thrown away.
The council leave their own properties lying empty for months/years at a time before renovating or renting them back out, not sure how he will get them to suddenly become so productive!
No mention on 2 /3 social rents are in arrears.
Well then name the country that runs huge public debt with zero private debt successfully?
can only think of Italy, Greece and Argentina, all are or are very close to being failed states.
great thanks, hows yourself?
nothing nonsense about it, just look round the world, heavily indebting people is a perfect way of maintaining control, and its worked, people are less likely to strike and fight back, while trying to service these debts....
not at all, we have to embrace growing public debt, the over reliance on credit, for our needs, has failed...
Didn't see the programme but o Broin ( who I always knew was a Marxist waffler) must really have been awful if Dara o Brien beat him , o Brien is himself a mediocrity
OBroin has council renovation of derelict housing as one of his big ideas to save costs. Come off it... the man clearly has never set foot on a building site, or paid a contractor for work done, if he believes that.
Hubristic naivety or missplaced populism, I can't tell which.
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