Garbage...I'm really looking forward to you explaining the non invasion...
And yet on here it's denied and there's nothing to see here is used ,
This was never a political move trying to gain consesssions , it's about taking back the former occupied states of eastern Europe .
they're not mortal enemies.
Poroshenko and Zelensky have tried numerous times to end the Russian Ukraine war, on the basis all will go back to normal if the annexed parts of the country are returned.
It was also found in 2014 that Ukraine still had technology to build their own nuclear bombs, which both Poroshenko and Zelensky have both pledged will never happen, as it contraveins the Budapest 1994 agreement, which all countries, except Russia, still acknowledge its existance...
sound like decent neighbours to be fair...
Major Russian troop transfers by air under way, lots more troops at train stations. Equipment moving to staging areas near the border. Ground attack aircraft in place. Nuclear Iskander missiles in place to deter NATO intervention. Amphibious force from Baltic & Northern Fleets, which called to Tartus in Syria is back under way, believed heading to Black Sea.
I couldn't find Ukraine on a map?.... what the hell are you talking about?
While nobody could expect intelligent anti-Russia trolls, I wish we at least had ones capable of engaging in some sort of conversation. Ignore list.
Attitudes on this thread seem to have changed significantly since I was last here a few days ago😂 looks like people on this thread are finally starting to cop on.
People seem to now have the opinions I had on here weeks ago when I was labelled a conspiracy theorist who has fell victim to Russian propaganda.
You've offered nothing ,you couldn't find ukraine on a map unless someone else found it for you ....
The only threat is coming from putin and Russia , nobody else
? ...
You appear to have forgotten what we were talking about.
I stated that Ukraine are mortal enemies with Russia and you said that no they're not giving the evidence of the treat and of things they have done up to the early 2000s.
I countered that by saying the early 2000s is a long time ago in terms of international relations. Noone was talking about the merit of the things that happened who was in the right or wrong, what we were arguing about was whether or not Ukraine are mortal enemies of Russia.
It looks like military columns are now moving towards staging areas at the border. An ominous sign. I wonder when Putin is scheduled to return from Beijing?
It also looks like Russia may be about to bring forward its annual nuclear weapons exercises. Clearing a warning to the west.
so because "a long time" has passed, signed treaties should be ignored?
They weren't any issues before 2014, as Ukraine had a government in place that was in Russia's pocket, and none of their country had been land grabbed.
You do realise that there has been an ongoing war since then?
point still stands...
if the Russian's sit back and do nothing, how does this instigate America to get involved?
It is a fatal mistake to be pro anybody at this stage. That just reduces things to good guys and bad guys. All that can be done at this stage is to watch for suspicious moves and try to tell who is faking it. Given that the reporting on this is heavy on fear mongering one would do well to trust nobody, especially the Americans 'cos they've always been a shower of jokers when it comes to public relations and they have no credibility left after the non existent wmd in Iraq.
You really should listen to Filatov's answers given a few days ago RTÉ News on Twitter: "Russian Ambassador Yuriy Filatov has told an Oireachtas committee that there is an "almost daily drumbeat of so-called imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine", when there are no facts on the ground to support that invasion "fantasy" | https://t.co/6a3l6EkgYN https://t.co/gHavLX4EEz" / Twitter
No they are not outing a potential plot. They are inventing it out of thin air. They are saying the Russians are going to make a fake film of a Ukrainian attack so they can counter attack. The big question is; Why are the Americans saying this?
Oh look ......
Nato build up ,get the boat.
The build up is Russian
From the early 2000s and before to now is a long time in international relations. Ukraine has been crying wolf about Russia since Crimea that I know of, probably a few years before.
Reminds me a bit of the people who say that someone's behaviour was so bad they had "had to call the police" on them. You're the one who called the police, that doesn't count as evidence against them dumbass. Similarly, Ukraine is not a reliable witness against Russia. Come on I know you know better than that.
Ukraine is even less trustworthy than the US.
Russia has not even invaded and yet there are western deployments, of weapons, men, and equipment into the region. Pushing till they get the desired result, Russia reacts to the buildup from Nato. Such craziness we are seeing.
current thinking is putin won't do anything until winter olympics is over as his master Xi wouldn't like it.
Maybe the true fight is because the Russians have now managed to reverse engineer the alien craft that they retrieved from the sea and they fear nobody now. The Americans are hoping to retrieve this Alien technology. The Annunaki are governing from the Antarctica. Sky News is aware of the true nature and is pretending that it is just about land
(obviously, I am making this rubbish up. Scary thing is that people actually believe this)
They are currently increasing their forces including types of Forces including civil unrest and civil disobedience nd counter intelligence units.
It was predicted they would need 100 battle groups to mount an invasion were looking at close to 90 battle groups moved to the Ukrainian borders including from Crimea and Belarus
So, what exactly is happening, if anything? Are the Russians done with their exercise?
Unlike the same pro Russian Posters in here...
It's all Biden and Ukraine planning to attack East Ukraine , sovereign ukraine at that 😮
The US government is reduced to talking about conspiracies and crisis actors now. Anyone with any sense has stopped listening to them I think.
Well, did I miss the invasion overnight? No? Grand so I'll check back tomorrow and see if the boards 'experts' have any update on Putin's plans...
morning shift in Russia....
just throwing crap to see what sticks at this stage
hold that thought...
so outing a potential plot, which would bring the Americans directly involved in the situation, and all the Russians have to do is not do anything, is the Americans way of getting directly involved?
Also, what makes it a false allegation, because Lavrov says so? the same Lavrov who has been consistently proven a liar on so many Russian narratives it's hard to keep count...?
Burger and buddies on fire and knocking it out of the ballpark early this morning (!), let's see how high we can raise the distortions, insults & Russian propaganda talking points per post metric.
What is the connection between the Annunaki + Ancient Astronaut Theories, Sky News, Ukraine, Russia? Is there a connection? That is what I want to know?
The most charitable way you could describe Sky News' reporting on this is to say it is an exercise in terror.
The Americans are now saying the Russians are making fake footage of a Ukrainian attack on Russia to give them an excuse to counter attack. This is how Hitler started the war with Poland. Lavrov dismissed this as nonsense. More terror.
It always amuses me when I hear RTE and the BBC go out of their way to remind us that Russian television is “state controlled”. 🤣
Right like Sky News telling us the Russians and Chinese are teaming up 'against the west'. Oooo...the boogie man is coming to get you. This is control by fear; state terrorism. I'm afraid you are the one who is binary with 'good guys' and 'bad guys'
limited is a very kind way of putting it.
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