Are we really that desperate for people to prop up the pension pyramid scheme?
Stuff like this from 2019:
I’d say you can drop a zero onto that. And they wonder why there’s a housing crisis. As well as a health and education one
Its not citizenship. People hopping up and down about citizenship are talking nonsense.
This is just absolute bunkum. Noone is moving here overnight to avail of a scheme that requires people living here 4 years or more.
What is it if not leave to remain indefinitely, come and go as they please, etc... except for no right to vote. Naturalisation for citizenship will fly by:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/becoming_an_irish_citizen_through_naturalisation.html
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/bdd61-minister-mcentee-announces-new-landmark-scheme-to-regularise-long-term-undocumented-migrants/
It was partially in the fg manifesto too
No you don’t.
If this means that they now have to start paying tax then that would be one benefit. Back-tax them too, right back to when they arrived.
Don’t you mean illegal Irish?
I think they sometimes analyse things like sewage produced, water consumed and food sold to estimate the illegal/off the books population.
maybe, reckon, could. All you are missing is a few maybe’s....
How on earth can you think this is a good thing?!
What it does is once again show that we are a soft mark when it comes to immigration and there is no need to play by the rules because they will never be enforced.
No need to worry about being deported because the courts can be used free of charge with the taxpayers footing the bill.
Act the bollix and it makes no difference as that would be classed as a minor offence.
The Whatsapp chat groups will be busy today telling the lads back home to get their arses over to this little country on the west coast of Europe where everything is free if you know how to play the system.
McEntee will be remembered as one of the most clueless Ministers of Justice since the foundation of the state and thats saying something considering some of the tulips who previously sat in that office.
Sure it's only about another 12k onto the social housing list, 20 percent increase 👍👍
Solid work from our right wing party
It's a pity whoever that employer is that they won't be prosecuted for illegal activities.
No. They wont be able to vote in general elections because they wont be Irish citizens.
we've all made a few undocumented withdrawals from the bank in our day.
The sentiment in here (and elsewhere online) is surprising. This has been signposted for ages with very little pushback from anyone.
I think in an era of stupid NGO led politics, this is one of the worst decisions in a while, and more than any far right misinformation is likely to stir up anti immigrant sentiment in this country. It's almost like that's what they want, it's completely tone deaf.
What are you on about. This is not about granting anyone citizenship.
This is not citizenship
They are indeed illegal.
The Irish-American community was an extremely valuable constituency, very cohesive and organized 30 / 40 years ago. Easy pickings for American politicians if they had a hand in preferential green card access, and Irish politicians involved got to look good at home as well to their own voters for sorting out the lads in Chicago / NY.
It was deeply cynical as those green card lotteries were ridiculously weighted towards Irish applicants at the expense of other communities.
They sent John Deasy over to lobby for Irish illegals and he thought he'd have an easy time repeating the trick. By all accounts, he came away with his tail between his legs as American politicians know full well the ethnic landscape and lobbying scene has radically changed since then, and sorting white immigrants from a rich country out ahead of other nationalities wasn't going to fly.
I know several people who have said they are applying. However, at least 1 is under pressure from their boss not to apply. The taxman will have field day.
The numbers will be closer to 100k than 17k. 17k must have come from the same place as the bankers got their figure when they approached the Minister of Finance for a bailout.
Glad I’m not the only that finds her absolutely appalling- the vacant clueless look is exactly what I’m talking about. Zero opinions or argument of her own- she’s ripe pickings for the NGO brigade to press their view of the world onto. A two bit degree in DCU and straight into her deceased fathers seat. No real world experience nor clearly doesn’t want it
Indeed. Since when did a student visa become a path to citizenship? In the real world, that person ought to have his visa revoked and be deported. In McEntee LaLa land, he's of good character and entitled to a passport right away.
This simply beggars belief.
I agree but there is unfortunately no alternative. Sinn Fein will be up next, if you think the current shower are bad wait for them to implement their immigration policies, including overturning our birthright citizenship law.
Huh?
There is 10 million plus undocumented in the states.
The Americans being Americans set up a system decades ago so that the undocumented could pay taxes.
I know undocumented Irish who setup and prospered with pretty large construction companies in New York and Boston.
If they got rid of all the undocumented in the morning they would starve to death.
Of course explaining that to your average Trump supporter would just result in loud slogans.
Trump is well aware of it though, he made quite a bit of money off the backs of them.
Undocumented Irish (in U.S.) = ?
Irish politicians have been lobbying Washington for decades on the issue of undocumented Irish.
oh for FFS. Please Ireland can i have a visa to study in your country? Yes here you go. Now give me full citizenship and access to your labour market and social welfare system or I will sue. Should be an instant revocation of his existing visa and back home on next flight
How she ever became minister for justice is a mystery to me. She has very clearly been promoted beyond her abilities; it's written all over her blank, expressionless face. She simply isn't capable of nuanced thinking or understanding that moronic actions have consequences.
To some extent, I welcome this lunacy. It's really highlighting to the Irish people the low caliber individuals who are governing this country and their utter disregard for the electorate who put them there. When the Irish people finally push back, it will be swift and decisive. Let's hope it happens before clowns like McEntee can inflict too much damage to our home.
They view the Irish people with nothing but contempt
17k doesn't pass the smell test for me anyway. I'd say if you took a couple of random postcodes in Dublin and shook a few trees you'd get 17k easily.
Again, I'm not 100% against the scheme, but I don't like how they're burying the lead on the numbers and essentially bullsh*tting the public.
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