Are we really that desperate for people to prop up the pension pyramid scheme?
Glad I’m not the only that finds her absolutely appalling- the vacant clueless look is exactly what I’m talking about. Zero opinions or argument of her own- she’s ripe pickings for the NGO brigade to press their view of the world onto. A two bit degree in DCU and straight into her deceased fathers seat. No real world experience nor clearly doesn’t want it
I know several people who have said they are applying. However, at least 1 is under pressure from their boss not to apply. The taxman will have field day.
The numbers will be closer to 100k than 17k. 17k must have come from the same place as the bankers got their figure when they approached the Minister of Finance for a bailout.
They are indeed illegal.
The Irish-American community was an extremely valuable constituency, very cohesive and organized 30 / 40 years ago. Easy pickings for American politicians if they had a hand in preferential green card access, and Irish politicians involved got to look good at home as well to their own voters for sorting out the lads in Chicago / NY.
It was deeply cynical as those green card lotteries were ridiculously weighted towards Irish applicants at the expense of other communities.
They sent John Deasy over to lobby for Irish illegals and he thought he'd have an easy time repeating the trick. By all accounts, he came away with his tail between his legs as American politicians know full well the ethnic landscape and lobbying scene has radically changed since then, and sorting white immigrants from a rich country out ahead of other nationalities wasn't going to fly.
This is not citizenship
What are you on about. This is not about granting anyone citizenship.
The sentiment in here (and elsewhere online) is surprising. This has been signposted for ages with very little pushback from anyone.
I think in an era of stupid NGO led politics, this is one of the worst decisions in a while, and more than any far right misinformation is likely to stir up anti immigrant sentiment in this country. It's almost like that's what they want, it's completely tone deaf.
we've all made a few undocumented withdrawals from the bank in our day.
No. They wont be able to vote in general elections because they wont be Irish citizens.
It's a pity whoever that employer is that they won't be prosecuted for illegal activities.
Sure it's only about another 12k onto the social housing list, 20 percent increase 👍👍
Solid work from our right wing party
How on earth can you think this is a good thing?!
What it does is once again show that we are a soft mark when it comes to immigration and there is no need to play by the rules because they will never be enforced.
No need to worry about being deported because the courts can be used free of charge with the taxpayers footing the bill.
Act the bollix and it makes no difference as that would be classed as a minor offence.
The Whatsapp chat groups will be busy today telling the lads back home to get their arses over to this little country on the west coast of Europe where everything is free if you know how to play the system.
McEntee will be remembered as one of the most clueless Ministers of Justice since the foundation of the state and thats saying something considering some of the tulips who previously sat in that office.
maybe, reckon, could. All you are missing is a few maybe’s....
I think they sometimes analyse things like sewage produced, water consumed and food sold to estimate the illegal/off the books population.
Don’t you mean illegal Irish?
If this means that they now have to start paying tax then that would be one benefit. Back-tax them too, right back to when they arrived.
No you don’t.
It was partially in the fg manifesto too
What is it if not leave to remain indefinitely, come and go as they please, etc... except for no right to vote. Naturalisation for citizenship will fly by:
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/irish_citizenship/becoming_an_irish_citizen_through_naturalisation.html
https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/bdd61-minister-mcentee-announces-new-landmark-scheme-to-regularise-long-term-undocumented-migrants/
This is just absolute bunkum. Noone is moving here overnight to avail of a scheme that requires people living here 4 years or more.
Its not citizenship. People hopping up and down about citizenship are talking nonsense.
I’d say you can drop a zero onto that. And they wonder why there’s a housing crisis. As well as a health and education one
Stuff like this from 2019:
If that’s the case then why are they moving here at all?
Its exactly that ,
What makes you think they won't get citizenship ,it's not as if we refuse them
Sometimes it is easier for some to deny the obvious fact that Irish Citizenship has been watered down to nothing by gifting it to anybody who owes no allegience to the State.
Following this process somebody with no right to reside in Ireland could get Citizenship faster than by the method I used to acquire Citizenship in another E.U. Country...and no pesky multiple choice tests like "when is it appropriate to beat a family member"...answer is "never". I'm not making this up. These questions are asked in the tests due to the radically different social norms in Countries from which some immigrants come.
That entry test was in the language of the Country I applied for and could only be sat after I proved language proficiency by passing an accredited language test.
Estimates in the UK say the illegal immigrant population increases by 70,000 net every year.
An Irish equivalent would be roughly 1/13th of that or 5-6,000 per year. Will we run the scheme every 2-3 years to keep up with the new illegals?
It’s been handed out like confetti. Other countries it’s a real process, hard earned. Have to learn the local lingo etc. Absolutely no reason why new and aspiring “citizens” shouldn’t learn Irish. I had to. So did everyone else born here (bar odd exemptions).
So getting amnesties for Irish 'illegals' is popular in Ireland but when it's proposed to amnesty illegals in Ireland the reaction is different. Hypocrisy comes to mind.
This is an absolute disgrace and a spit in the face of every genuine immigrant who went through all the hoops needed when coming here and are contributing to society. Instead we have given amnesty to a whole swathe of chancers who could very well be a burden of the state for decades to come.
If the government had balls, they would have put this to the public vote.
I'm not all that interested in the Irish illegals / undocumented in the US. If one moves to America without their paperwork in order they know full well what they're letting themselves in for.
The days of preferential treatment for the Irish are pretty much gone and that's how it should be. The "shur we built America" schtick doesn't wash any more.
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