So you’re trying to say Russia never did any of these things?
Ok champ.
More dishonesty....I suppose when you're losing this is the only refuge you can find, pathetic really.
Can’t understand what the hullabaloo is about anyway. A military chief of staff met with a foreign diplomat in the embassy and they took a photo. Gasp
More likely Coveney's head will meet the axe in the near future.
He has quite foolishly turned himself into a mouthpiece for the EU, with his ill-advised rhetoric against the perfectly legal Russian training maneuvers out in international waters.
He is being used and strung along like a brain dead puppet. Not unlike how the yanks are using the Aussies to talk tough against China. But with very undesirable ramifications for their own nation. Ireland should be wise here, and not insert ourselves into a conflict that we have no business being part of.
Keeping a good friendly working relationship with Russian diplomats and heads of military is very sensible and intelligent from our POV. The Russian ambassador seems like a decent guy in fairness too. Why would you reject the chance to have a friendly hand shake and photo op? Ridiculous overreaction.
I have to say some of the posts from the Putin apologists here are wild. We're on the precipice of a major land war in Europe that will potentially leave many dead and extinguish a sovereign state as a going conern, and all we get from them is bUT aMEriCA.
Yes, yes, those dastardly omnipotent fellows in the CIA are making Putin do this. Of course.
Wild
Are they not
Also add Iran into that
Yeah civil war. Exactly like the one in Afghanistan, Iraq, Yugoslavia and Syria just to mention a few.
Warmongers and war apologists on boards should really lead by example, pack their rucksack and sod off to where their heart pull them.
It is possible to despise BOTH the Russian MIC (2nd biggest in the world) AND the U.S. MIC (#1).. and the beligerence of both countries whn it suits them.
Bit like the US and every election in Latin America where their lackeys don't win!
And again with your lies. Now show me one post were I defended China or ant practice by them? Though I note you didn't mention Gitmo, still going strong after 20 years - you seem to have do issue with the US and it'spoor record on human rights....we can do this all day!
If you read the other posts you'll mote there is ample defense if US imperialism. The US is still punishing Cuba for a revolution in 1959 that ousted a dictator they were happy with, so I wouldn't be jumping to their defense too quickly as you've just done!
Like your mate gatling you seem to be deliberately musseeading my posts or are simply obtuse. I'm not defending anyone, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of US imperialism and their lackeys, they wreak destruction at will yet claim to stand for demo6and human rights, you seem to take no issue with that hypocrisy and are happy to run along with it.
You seem to be deliberately missing reading my posts or you're simply obtuse. I have made no defence of Russia or praised Putin. I have done two things, 1, rubbished any suggestion of an invasion of Ukraine by Russia and 2, pointed out accurately the rank hypocrisy of US imperialism and their lackeys. You on the other hand seem to take no issue whatsoever with the rotten role of US imperialism and the destruction it wreaks around the globe.
They went, on the back of an invitation that shouldn’t have been issued… and our thanks ?… The Russian embassy Twitter not doing his or irelands cause any good…”as well as prospects of contacts between armed forces of two countries.”.. that’s more damming than any photos…
We were being had, being used on our own doorstep…id say that’s a bit of an OG by us as far as the Americans would see it… there won’t be anything publicly but I’d say somebody from the American side would have put in a call to their opposite number here…
the head of our defense forces scheduling meetings with Russian diplomats unbeknownst to our own and his government ? Total naivety , the responsibility and importance of the roll to have somebody of that responsibility make a decision like that is worrying… it would be diplomatic suicide to sack the man but he should be ‘retired’ in a year…
The red brick building looks like DF HQ in McKee Barracks, so it seems like the Russian Ambassador and Russian Defence attache went to him.
In fairness, courtesy calls from diplomats to there wouldn't be entirely unusual, but the timing was probably quite deliberate and unfortunate for him - allowing himself to be photographed smiling displayed a severe lack of judgment though.
The very public rap on the knuckles from Coveney will sting.
From the Irish point of view..
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/simon-coveney-criticises-meeting-between-new-defence-forces-chief-of-staff-and-russian-ambassador-41282029.html
Lieutenant General Seán Clancy’s meeting with Yury Filatov last Friday. Not sanctioned by the government…. So the newly appointed head of the Irish defence forces judgement is so fûcking askew that he is rocking up for meetings with Russian political figures in Dublin and not even thinking that it is a good idea to lift the phone to his boss and say… “ hey, is this a good idea ? “ but instead the government find out about his meeting on the Russian Embassy Twitter ffs…where
I mean that’s worrying, I’d basically fire his arse and discredit him publicly to the point he wouldn’t even get a job washing ducks for a living…
What has my username got to do with anything at all? why do you call yourself "Animalinside" go on enlighten us im guessing you attach background story to usernames since you are questioning mine.
If you kept up with the chat you would see china was brought into the discussion as was Afghanistan and other places.
Here's EXACTLY what's going to happen.
Russia will do nothing. NATO will look at each other and start saying "fuck"...what do we do now? The media will continue to fart about the Russian "threat" and eventually it will all die down. And Russia will just sit there and say "such ****"
Blinken and Stoltenberg are already sweating trying to save face for a stupid imbroglio that they invented. It's pretty funny.
There will be a diplomatic solution and the Russians will agree saying "oh just go back to your people and claim that you won some kind of concession, we don't care. If saving face in the light of your own stupidity is important then we will let you have that.....5% more on the gas."
New tactics if you can't get attention throw a tantrum.
Very childish at this hour of the morning
bro relax Jesus
Do we have any hse psychologists available to do some prescriptions ....
First of all, you have a stupid name. Everyone is trying to find "the truth". Why do you decide to call yourself "the truth"? What purpose is that supposed to have, are we supposed to say you must be saying "the truth" just because of your name?
Secondly, we're talking about Russia, not China. They are extremely different countries. You seem to be conflating the two. Russia and the US have similar levels of freedom while China are off the scales which you competently gave examples of. I'm not sure why you're trying to lump Russia in along with China though and treating the US as a good guy of some sort.
Partners including china -
China are not your partner vladi
Russia not satisfied with the US proposals. That did not take long
The irony of that as your sat here reaping the benefits of the US domination that you claim is so evil... My heart bleeds for china and they going around putting Uyghurs into "Re-Education Camps" any one that opposes em does a Houdini and disappears. The doctors that blew the whistle on Covid-19 just Puff gone! And you turn around then and lecture everyone else about being hypocritical?
Who in there right mind would want to see a regime like that prosper ?
I mean they are both awful in different ways. I don't think anyone here claimed the US is some paragon of virtue. But at least the US isn't trying to take over a country cause they're butthurt over how **** went down 30 years ago.
The same Iran that's been weeks/months/years/days away from the bomb since way back when....
Will i give a shout to the 2,000,000 Afghans killed by the soviets while im at it? what about the 1000's of Chechens killed? mostly civilians by the way!
Your coddin yourself if you think your Russian/Chinese lead Utopia would be better... Be thankful that you are in the west and living free and comfortable because of the balance the US power provides. Its far better to be the hammer than the nail and there is always going to be a hammer and a nail dont cod yourself.
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