" The EU gang are / were grand - we have got lucky , so far , and it was not by any grand design ."
Have we really given the events of the last week, funny how the story has nearly disappeared off most of our media.
In fairness it is sub judice now that he's been charged and can't be spoken about until the trial is over.
If you're illegal in the US the advice you'll get is to pay your taxes to the IRS
And any idea how many illegal immigrants are working in Ireland? Any numbers how many are actually paying tax?
It's not difficult. Illegal immigrants are people that are in the country illegally. Asylum seekers are not illegally in the country.
It's not semantics to know what the actual status of people is.
Excellent post..
but we both know he's not going to deal with what you've written, and will simply deflect with vague statements or questions that lead to more things that he can deflect away from.
How do you pay tax without a PPS??
"There is a serious risk in applying for a PPS number when undocumented. If you are thinking of doing this please contact MRCI first so we can advise you on your individual case."
Or lets say Nwankwo doesn't want to work, he wants to be a stay at home dad for his kids. Lets say he sees the amnesty and decides that working illegally might harm his chances.
Do we know who the majority of illegal immigrants in the country are? Or how they are here illegally?
Anyone overstaying a visa has a pps number. I'm just guessing but I would think that most illegal immigrants are just that?
My post has nothing to do with anything you are asking.
You answer me, in the interests of fairness since I asked first, and then i'll have a look into what you are asking and see what sort of answer I can come up with. Seems the fairest way of doing things.
There's that...but why isn't there a rash of articles about unvetted migrants here drawing benefits, instead we got article after article demonising Irish men
Because he is an EU citizen, there is no vetting.
As I have pointed out time and time again, we have no idea who is living here from the EU or the UK.
What was your question?
They are in bold in my post. No point in me reposting them. You quoted them in your post #12243 above.
The Dutch version of Gript is your source?
No I don’t think I will spend another minute entertaining that nonsense, thanks all the same.
@bubblypop are you from a non irish background? I just dont understand where your naive viewpoint comes from?
They've been recorded on film admitting it, not to mention Greek authorities arresting over 30 of them for people trafficking after investigating them for months....
Who pays for these things? Sure we know who pays for them, the taxpayer.
Sean Binder, an Irishman is charged. Up to 25 years in a Greek prison if found guilty. Good enough for them if they're guilty.
These NGOs have been repeatedly criticised, arrested ,blocked from entering ports over their antics...I don't for one second believe they are acting in a normal manner
You're an absolute parody of yourself..
An Irishman whi is a German Citizen
And would you blame the Greeks, locals on Lesbos Island have had to endure their churches vandalised, sheep slaughtered, dogs poisoned,property stolen and centuries old olive trees cut down or burned...all the while NGO workers march through Moira Town smiling smugly at them from the video footage I've seen...
https://www.euronews.com/2020/09/29/greek-police-accuse-33-ngo-members-of-helping-migrant-smugglers
The whole question in the beginning was what money do they cost the taxpayers and how much do they cost?
Which noone seems to be able to answer. We know how much asylum seekers cost. We know how much EU citizens that receive social security cost.
How much do illegal immigrants cost? Noone seems to know.
Not even our government know that, upwards of 20k or so
Why do we have NGO that helps people avoid the law of the country.
Modern day theives guild
Who is unable to support himself and thus should be sent home
I would agree.
bubblypop and Fandymo - drop this back and forth bickering
They would cost less so it’s economic sense to leave them illegal .
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