Public healthcare workers, who served onsite in a clinical Covid-19 exposed env. to receive 1k euro

Pussyhands · 19-01-2022 01:53PM #1

https://twitter.com/RTENewsPaulC/status/1483757833795604483

19-01-2022 01:55PM

what does this cover exactly? Like are GP staff & hospital staff falling under this - or is this mainly for vaccine/test centre staff etc?

Pussyhands · 19-01-2022 01:56PM

While I support the payment, it's inevitable that people who deserve it miss out and some will receive it that shouldn't get it.

As it's public healthcare workers, I assume any workers contracted via agency or vendor will not receive it. i.e cleaners

Private workers in nursing homes also will not receive it.

And who will decide if someone was in a covid 19 exposed environment?

Will GPs receive this? They've technically been in a covid 19 exposed environment. The same GPs who are refusing to see patients in person and only do phone calls now.

Richard571 · 19-01-2022 01:59PM

I think this a reasonable proposal. Fundamentally the people at frontline healthcare are getting justifiable recognition.

Some worthy recipients may miss out but without opening the flood gates and making this a huge cost you have to draw the line somewhere and this feels right.

Expect all unions to be up in arms for those not getting payments……

19-01-2022 02:01PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499559#Comment_118499559

That’s my main concern. It’s well deserved for the nurses, carers and doctors who’ve worked throughout in hospitals and the likes, but the cleaning and maintenance staff are as deserving of it imo.

awec · 19-01-2022 02:04PM

Teachers unions to complain in 5…4…3…

CrabRevolution · 19-01-2022 02:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499559#Comment_118499559

Agency workers are entitled to the exact same terms and conditions of employment as a directly employed HSE worker (barring a few obvious things like pensions). A friend of mine is an agency worker and requested that the increment skip HSE workers get be applied to him. After a long process of the request being sent up the chain of command and assorted HR personnel, it was finally found that any pay arrangements HSE are entitled to, an agency worker is entitled to.

Conversations 3 · 19-01-2022 02:37PM

What about maintenance plumbers, electricians working in there full time but on a sub contract?

Pussyhands · 19-01-2022 02:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499686#Comment_118499686

Is that a public sector specific clause? Because I know that companies are not allowed to give employees of other companies any money or benefits not outlined in a contract. Because as soon as that company gives another companies employees money or benefits they are seen to be employed directly by that company and as such get all employment protections and other benefits.

Fandymo · 19-01-2022 02:42PM

It should be paid to any HSE workers who had to be onsite for the duration of COVID. I'd to use public transport, when it was available meaning i'd to leave home earlier and get home later if the bus already had 25% capacity filled, to get to and from work, work longer hours and had to be driven across the city off-site to work when the cyber attack happened. Would anyone in the test centres, hospitals, etc bother working if my office hadn't made it in to pay them for weeks/months at a time, or would that have been happy to be short staffed if there was no one to process the HR forms/deal with recruitment etc?

Pussyhands · 19-01-2022 03:00PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499686#Comment_118499686

Healthcare workers who are privately employed - except those in hospices & nursing homes - will not be included in the €1,000 bonus.

So they're not included.

thedeiseman · 19-01-2022 03:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499812#Comment_118499812

So you just did your job? Lots of people went into to work everyday for the last 2 years - myself included. Should I get a cheque?

Fandymo · 19-01-2022 03:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500027#Comment_118500027

Did you have to get in early, leave late, travel across the city to do it? Deal with the public as the first point of contact in a clinic?

Iwastimthe · 19-01-2022 03:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500127#Comment_118500127

"The payment will not be made to healthcare employees who worked from home, and is instead being directed towards those who worked on site, in a clinical setting"

If you worked in a clinical setting you get it, if not well then your out. Did you work in clinical setting?

Fann Linn · 19-01-2022 03:28PM

Will be paid to Army personnel and others deployed to frontline vaccination & testing centres.

So passport office, department of SW and local authority staff will also get it.

CrabRevolution · 19-01-2022 03:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118499986#Comment_118499986

I find it hard to see how they can justify including student nurses but not nurses and doctors who happen to be agency staff.

Fann Linn · 19-01-2022 03:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500299#Comment_118500299

Govt are paying their own staff. I'd say they're under the impression that agencies should look after theirs.

KaneToad · 19-01-2022 03:37PM

This is an own goal by govt. Can't believe they fell into this trap. There is no such thing as a "front line" worker. There is no definition.

There was a list of essential workers that were defined by govt. who were deemed crucial to keep the country going. A lot of these won't get a financial reward for going above and beyond.

CrabRevolution · 19-01-2022 03:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500342#Comment_118500342

That would make more sense if they hadn't explicitly mentioned that they'd be paying employees of private nursing homes and hospices with government funds. What's the distinction?

Fann Linn · 19-01-2022 03:39PM

Agency staff are better paid according to commentators on da lavelahn.

Speak Now · 19-01-2022 03:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500127#Comment_118500127

You've described regular days in the private sector 😆

Fandymo · 19-01-2022 03:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500190#Comment_118500190

I worked in a mental health clinic for part of it, and the HR/Payroll office for part of it.

Fandymo · 19-01-2022 03:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500369#Comment_118500369

100%. I was deemed an essential HSE worker and as such had no option to work from home. I still have my essential worker letter.

Fandymo · 19-01-2022 03:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500411#Comment_118500411

Luckily this has nothing to do with the private sector.

jo187 · 19-01-2022 03:47PM

Does anyone know time frame for payment?

Fann Linn · 19-01-2022 03:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500369#Comment_118500369

Including journos on that list.

Can ye imagine the uproar if Tubs, Duffy or Claire Byrne qualified for it.

Fun and games😷😷

agoodpunt · 19-01-2022 03:48PM

this will turn out to be a PS free for all

SEPT 23 1989 · 19-01-2022 03:50PM

Just borrow another 2 billion on the never never and give all workers who worked through the pandemic a grand each

then there will be no arguments

CrabRevolution · 19-01-2022 03:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500391#Comment_118500391

They don't have to pay a public pension contribution so only seem to be better paid. On the other hand they get no pension....

Thinking more into it, even in the unlikely event the agencies decide to pay their staff a bonus, I take it that it's not going to be tax free? So either the agency tops up the pay to make the net pay €1000 (pigs will fly) or the agency worker gets taxed on the €1000 and potentially gets about €500 net.

HeidiHeidi · 19-01-2022 03:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500262#Comment_118500262

What?

How are those two statements related?

Fann Linn · 19-01-2022 03:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118500480#Comment_118500480

I think you're dead right. Gardai will make a claim, followed by Prison Services, other unions will follow on, social workers etc. All I suppose could justifiably make an argument.

SF & the Opposition will jump on the bandwagon.

Govt have cocked up on this and I reckon there'll be one for everyone in the PS audience by the time this is over.

And I say that as a PS employee who was also deemed essential!

Public healthcare workers, who served onsite in a clinical Covid-19 exposed env. to receive 1k euro

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