I'd share your suspicion of major corporations having heavy involvement in government. Corporations, especially PLCs, are essentially psychopaths unless they are run by very ethical people at the top (and even then can have parts of the org getting up to shenanigans).
However, the good news is that we are not going to have Pfizer or Tesla in government here any time soon. And that's not going to change without a referendum.
Of more immediate concern is the power of lobbyists - maybe not so much at national level here, but certainly at EU level, and in the USA.
So you’re completely anti-vax and have gone quite far down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories. So of you were in government with a health system already heaving at the seams, and a pandemic comes along, and extremely safe vaccines were developed (compared to getting the virus), what would you do?
If you are worried about corporations being involved in pushing their agendas you might want to take a look at some other publications. A good place to start would be with the financiers of the Great Barrington Declaration (which advocated the "let it rip" herd immunity discredited theory), the American Institute for Economic Research and their associate libertarian so called think tanks around the world and read some of their publications and check out the deep pockets that fund them. One of their statements to back up their particular bullshit from their grandly titled "Resident Fellow" is that no matter where in the world it strikes, the spread of Covid-19 drops to practically zero after 70 days.
I agree with you. I'm not saying we will see it. All I said was that the WEF want more say in state governance for corporations, and they tried to use Covid to push it through, I didn't say it was a big conspiracy, I didn't say it would happed, it was just an example of an organization trying to use Covid to their advantage, just like many other organizations. Again, my whole point is that they are not big conspiracies. I happen to disagree with many people on here, so everyone wants to label me a conspiracy theorist so they can dismiss what I'm saying.
The US is nuts, not just because of lobbyists, you have regulatory bodies funded by the corporations they're regulating, and legal insider trading by congress, the conflicts of interest are just beyond belief.
Yes, you have a very different definition. Are you vaccinated?
Gideon van Meijeren is an embarrassing loon who reproduces many of the tropes we get on this conspiracy forum. He's been discussed here before.
As for the highlighted passage, what's the link and context? What is your actual concern? Be specific.
I'm pro vaccine, I am fully vaccinated, my kids are vaccinated and my whole family will continue to get vaccinated.
I would lie if I was in power too. I would do what is for the greater good, because that would be my job. Which is exactly why I'm a skeptic, because the job of government is to do what is for the greater good, not what is best for me and my family, that's my job.
What "very good points" does he raise according to do? Of course he has millions of subscribers, Alex Jones had millions also. Conspiracy twaddle sells well, as mentioned, it's now a mini industry.
Every. Single. Time.
"Air travel is safe"
Normal people: "Yup"
"Vaccines are safe"
Anti-vaxxers "HA 13 years ago there was a vaccine with a 1 in 18,000 chance of developing a condition, they aren't safe!!!"
Do you think the Irish government have being telling about the covid vaccine safety?
How much more specific? I've stated my concerns. You specifically said no links, now you want links. This is why this thread is BS, you just keep repeating questions, until people give up, then claim victory, I guess you won this one to, I'm out.
This video got 53 million views, should we start taking advice from him?
I meant no link dumping which is : "read this 96 page document", or "watch this 4 hour video" (which happens a lot here)
You quoted some passage, for which I have no context. It seems to be referring to international institutions (not governments), and appears to be advocating for more non-governmental input, which could be anything; NGO's, charities, research laboratories (nothing wrong with that)
This is why I asked for specifics.
It's a bit naïve to think Scotland won't follow suit if the rest of the UK has, they relied on NI and Wales for support in measures, even they are looking to exit Covid measures.
CTA has been open all along, I've had no bothers travelling the last 2 years
Oh look, they were planning on vaccine passports to come in now even before the pandemic..
You’d want to be really stupid not to see the benefit of vaccine passports. They’re in use by many countries already to protect their population. Do you think the pandemic was created to implement the vaccine certs?
oh look, someone doesnt know what a "feasibility study" is :D
what do you think the "union" in European Union means???
Examine the feasibility of developing a common vaccination card/passport for EU citizens that is compatible with electronic immunisation information systems and recognised for use across borders, without duplicating work at national level.
There are none so blind as those who will not see..
“There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know.”
Yeah, you know that the pandemic wasn’t created to implement it, but are so deluded that you choose to ignore it 😉
There are none so stupid as those who make shït up, to validate their own political bias or personal paranoia or to find common cause with other anti-social oddballs or folk with chips on their shoulder.
You are pitied.
Yup, since 1897!!!
Nope, the 1600's
These bastards have been planning this for centuries!!
"Consequently, there has also been a need for documents attesting that a person has completed quarantine or is otherwise known not to be infectious. Since the 1600s, various Italian states issued fedi di sanità to exempt their bearers from quarantine.[10]
The International Certificate of Vaccination (Carte Jaune) is a certificate of vaccination and prophylaxis, not immunity. The document has remained largely unchanged since it was adopted by the International Sanitary Convention of 1944.[11] The certificate is most commonly associated with Yellow Fever, but it is also used to track vaccination against other illnesses."
Typical governments taking forever to get things done. At this rate the great reset won’t happen until at least 3419.
I’ve had a vaccine passport for years, you need it to travel to many countries worldwide for diseases such as yellow fever.
Yeah but the yearly trip from whatever small town to Dublin on December 8th never required one, that's why some of these lads are confused 🤷♂️🤣
I was in SE Asia in the early 00's when there was a huge Yellow Fever outbreak...
weren't allowed boards a plane without a Yellow Fever vaccination pass, some airports had medical checks on arrival, saw a good few get refused boarding and a few others quarantined on arrival...
Also had the fortunate experience of going through SE Asia just after MERS.... that was a lot of fun
small town mentality, I can't go to the local for a pint, burn down Leinster house
You rightly say that the job of a government is to do what is for the greater good, but I do not see where the rest of your post make no logical sense.
Surely if they have acted for the greater good, then the basis on which they have done so could be clearly seen by anyone other than those that believe a government (or in this case all governments) were involved in a conspiracy of lies.
Scotland to lift most remaining restrictions
Almost as if the restrictions are related to the virus..
George Soros calling the Scottish government now
but but but....
"all restrictions permanent" something something rhubarb rhubarb.....
The same Varadkar that said the vaccine cert would be in place for a few weeks only. I think it would be prudent to take what he says with a pinch of salt.
He's talking about masks being a 'seasonal requirement': https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-40787958.html
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