It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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No I'm not saying that the larger issue at hand doesn't matter. It absolutely does, but ultimately there will be no change.. i.e. doesn't matter that labour didn't break the rules because Tories are gonna Tory and spin this all the way. Boris will Go when it suits other Tories to remove him. Meanwhile they will throw mud everywhere.
This spy? The one who gave money to the conservative party and was given an award by them? Lol
oh. you mean this spy,,,
Well sky news or the bbc ran stories on it so I’m not making up what was alleged.
Any chance the poster could provide some proof?
Well thats what the security services in the UK are saying.
CCP spy? Seriously?
If Johnson can party like Caligula, why can't Gardiner protest against racism?
It's all over. Pretty sure plenty of images of Beer Starmer's mob will be drip fed to the press this week.
Even MI5 found out they have been infiltrated by a CCP spy. Look at him admitting he has broke the rules. Total hypocracy !
Of course it matters.
Tories are being rightly attacked for holding a press conference telling people to follow the rules they have just set, while they were stocking up on booze for secret garden parties that were completely contrary to said rules
This is what the public are outraged with.
The tories will try to spin it, but they'll just end up digging deeper holes for themselves
Yeah as we move out of the pandemic (fingers crossed) this stuff will have diminishing traction. Let a few judiciously chosen deputy heads roll and the 'Big Dog' should be in the clear.
A week is a long time in politics.
The life expectancy of a 95 year old female in the UK is 150 weeks. The chance of the Queen dying before the report comes out if it's sufficiently delayed could be as high as 1%
But more likely there'll be more revelations vs. dead cats waiting for Johnson's return from the unnecessary self imposed isolation.
England will open up fully in a week or so the inquiry report will be delayed johnson will survive
You're naive if you think he will be still there in a Month
Doesn't matter.
Because this is how it will play out/be spun.
Did Labour break the rules at the time? Yes or No
Cheese and wine outside, pizza and beer indoors. It's all over, time to move on now.
Beyond pathetic. Not surprised the BBC ignore it when it's Johnson holding mass parties but when it's Labour employees sharing a meal at work it's somehow an issue.
It's pretty much the standard play. Wait it out while they muddy the waters with some seemingly comparable situation on the "other side". No accountability, no responsibility for actions. Boris will not step down.
It seems that was following the rules at the time.
So Starmer isn't breaking the rules. He would walk a mile to a zebra crossing on a quiet street.
Naught naughty Starmer. Caught red handed, what a hypocrite !
Oh no, those dasterly PDs coming along and delivering the Centres of Excellence for cancer treatment and not be swayed by unions or parochial politics!
Or how dare they attempt to offer people an alternative to dying on HSE waiting lists!
It always seems to be the case with the Tory membership that they want the most prominent person to lead the party. It's only Truss because they recognise her name.
I know I’ve said it before but every MP in the government party should watch yes, minister and yes, prime minister because it’s a timeless comedy and in some ways a documentary given that the writers were getting info from within Whitehall.
In these circumstances I think it really shows the strength of the electoral systems that are in place in both countries.
Take golfgate, for example. FG and FF had to act on that occasion because there was the threat of the Greens bringing down the government if they didn't. Or, if one of FG/FF acted and the other didn't, then there's the threat from there too. These coalitions with different parties with different ideologies, for the most part, encourages some form of accountability when something like this happens.
However in the UK, the Tories have an 80-seat majority. What are the opposition going to do if Boris doesn't resign? **** all, because there is nothing they can do if the Tories just back each other to the hilt and hope the public forgets about it when 2024 comes around. The Tories are in this position because of an out-dated electoral system whereby the share of the vote is nowhere near proportional to the share of the seats.
Operation Save Big Dog. Surely a joke😂😂
A great photo to liven up a dull morning!! 😃
I don't think that the PDs were quite as fundamental as you say: they were a symptom of a larger and longer process. First, it is virtually impossible not to have coalition governments under PR, and government parties have to be very careful about giving their coalition partners cause for complaint. Second, the increasingly more educated electorate has become much less tolerant or "cute hoorism" (there are exceptions which I won't name).
Given that small countries are inherently more prone to cronyism (everyone knows everyone else), not a bad outcome. Makes Boris and his crew look really shabby (as well as totally inept, even by the standard of Irish politics).
The PDs (shudder I hate the idea of possibly complimenting those neoliberal loons.... twice in a day too, as smog came up in conversation offline earlier) influence on the 1997-2002 Government* brought in a standard/expectation of political probity here that's amongst the highest in Europe; higher than anyone but the Scandinvians I'd say. We went from looking at the UK as somewhere where politicians messed up resigned and ours never did; to somewhere where their politicians hold on to grim death and ours walk. And have learned the power of the tactical walk - Dara Calleary will be back because he walked fast over Golfgate.
*Burke would never have resigned his Dail seat in old-FF eras, if even resigning from FF; but he had to due to the setup at the time. Lawlor would have stayed in FF, Bertie would have had no pressure over his issues etc etc.
Boris won't be resigning of his own accord... his career would have been well over now if that was the case. He'll continue to ride this out unless there's a heave and it does look like it's coming sooner rather than later. A leopard doesn't change its spots.
Yeah its a fair point though Phil Hogan did try to brazen out his golf tour of Ireland for several weeks until he had to go for lying to Ursula von der Leyen over his movements, he got caught rotten when it came out that he was caught speeding in Kildare when he had said he was in Clare.
But the Tories recently with Owen Patterson seem to have adopted the brazen it out approach, they were even willing to change the rules governing MPs to get him off the hook. Whereas back in 2009 nearly 20 MPs including the Speaker of the House resigned over the expenses scandal. Around about that time we were listening to Bertie claiming he didnt have a bank account when he was Minster for Finance.
yeah she must have something going for her if a sizable amount of the membership see her has a viable leader. I just find it hard to get past her speech on British cheese a few years ago, it was jaw dropping stuff. She seems to have the backing of the ERG despite her being a Remainer, they are a sizable block who will be able to get her into a run off vs Sunak.
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