Anyone know what is his medical exception?
Not lied on his immigration documents that he had been in Spain for 14 days.
the judge made no judgement on the validity of his visa. none. djokovic lied on his visa application. he is facing the consequence of that decision. He is not special, he is not above the rules.
From what I can make out, the government withdrew their argument in front of Kelly, as it was obvious the initial rejection of the visa by ABF was done incorrectly. You would wonder what they were thinking, another 40 minutes and it was done and dusted. Why did they jump the gun?
Djokovic only came to Australia in the first place because he applied to and followed the medical exemption process and was granted it.
That's the key point that was being discussed at the point you jumped in.
Judge agreed that "what more could this man have dene" in this regard.
nothing further to discuss as conflating other things to the original discussion that is not to deal with the actual point being discussed is a mess.
I would accept your first point, but still disagree with it. The other 2 points still stand imo. The fans will want to see him (real tennis fans). The sponsors will want him involved, especially the tv networks. Can you imagine the viewing count for his games as opposed to him not being there?
he lied on his visa application.
no idea. it doesn't make djokovics visa application any more honest.
For the last time if you can't get the actual point being discussed with other posters why keep spamming something not being discussed.
Nobody is denying the 14 day travel error but that had no relevance to the area in question - the exemptions process.
just leave it there.
you can keep ignoring that he lied on his visa application or say it doesn't matter but at the end of the day he is facing the consequences of his own dishonesty.
AGAIN.
It wasn't a lie. It was an "error". Feels like I'm hearing from Boris Johnson's spokesperson.😂
It's the reason he's being denied entry.
Very relevant.
an error of omission then if you are being generous. it is still providing misleading information to obtain a visa which is a criminal offence in australia.
but it's not the actual reason that he's being denied entry.
the law 133c is an "at the ministers' discretion" law and in the government statement today no mention at all was made in relation to the 14 day error.
go have a look.
This doesn't stack up. If travel history was irrelevant, why are they asking about it?!
And it's not like he forgot he went to Spain four years ago, he had been there a couple of days previously. That's quite an omission.
An exemption granted based on incorrect information is null and void - I really don't see the problem.
"The Australian government has cancelled Novak Djokovic's visa for a second time, with immigration minister Alex Hawke saying he "carefully considered" all information before arriving at the decision."
All information was considered.
133C(3) is a "ministerial discretion" law
if you want to read into that something you want to read into, so be it.
none of the commentary from legal experts was making a huge deal about the error / Lie or whatever you want to call it on the 14 day travel aspect
I wouldn't say they are loved by the majority. Their shameful railroading of one of their own citizens, Julian Assange, shows how craven they are.
Imagine if every time someone lied they could say "it was an error" and that was accepted by everyone else. Just think about that for a minute. This thread is bonkers.
Only if they are rich and famous, then get all their "fanboys" to defend them.
Mad that so many are so keen to defend a anti vaxxer who manipulated legal documents to get into a country.
Tennis Australia gave him the exemption - not the government.. ie he still wasn't eligible for a visa.. and also.. he lied on the form etc.. oh sorry.. "his agent" lol... what a pleb - he has nooooo shame
This lady.
Same exemption, and same reason for exemption of "Recent Covid" which she also used a PCR test for (like Djokovic did).
She had already been allowed into Australia using the exemption and indeed had played a tennis match but after the Djokovic airport saga she was detained.
At least one person, a non-playing other official, and possibly one more.
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I wasn't that arsed to follow it in that much detail, but from a short newspaper report that I scanned through at the time, I took it that the judge overturned it based on the fact that he hadn't been given sufficient time to consult with whomever in order to appeal, before being removed from the hotel or wherever he was. I seem to recall that he was "lifted" at about 6:30am but that he should have been given until 8am to contact whomever he wanted to contact.
That article could have been incorrect. But that is what I took from it - that the processes they were supposed to afford him after cancelling it were not all ticked off fully.
It'd be a bit like if you worked in McDonalds and the manager caught you pi$sing in the milkshakes and fired you on the sport and you subsequently sued and won compensation because it was in your employment rules that you were to be given 72 hours to respond to any allegation.
read the article.. she since had her visa cancelled!
the actual judgement was made on procedure by the ABF - you're correct there
that doesn't mean the judge didn't comment on Djokovic following the exemptions process and the proof of same, on which the judge did.
"what more could this man have done" relates to that
Judge Anthony Kelly said that "what more" Djokovic could have done, stating that the tennis player had received the required medical exemption from COVID-19 vaccination before he travelled to Melbourne to participate in the Australian Open 2022.
The judge also said that Djokovic presented evidence of that when he landed on Wednesday.Â
When Djokovic's lawyers challenged the Australian government's decision to revoke his visa, the judge said, "The point that I am somewhat agitated about is what more could this man have done?"
yes.
wasn't a problem until "after", for um, some reason.
she got in absolutely fine to Australia on the same process, same exemption, same reason
as did 1 if not 2 other people also.
the gov told Tennis Australia back in Nov that having had covid in the last 6 mths was NOT basis for an exemption - twas their mistake - this came to their attention when Djokovic arrived - and so action was taken on previous - nothing wrong with that!
But Djok's situation is dire now.. with all the lies and regulations he broke both at home and abroad.. he's unreal!!!
there were mix-ups, errors etc on all sides (fed gov, state gov, tennis australia) - other leaked letters show the opposite viewpoint also - that letter was just the first leak
it was all a mess that started with the exemptions process and the granting - the others and Djokovic would have never come to Australia otherwise
it's also clear that there was a lot of politicking and ass-covering going on as the saga unfolded (like kicking out the czech lady "after")
Djokovic at fault here for sure but you also have to look at each issue of the chain of events
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