Dummy opening post
Yeah, I'd never use the lane going down there, just stick to the road.
Never had any issues with drivers going uphill, even though it's a slower trek going up, and cars have to hold back.
no details, but that's not usually a particularly dangerous stretch; hopefully whoever it was makes a full recovery. i know there's a few boardsies who live nearby or pass down the road reasonably regularly.
I clarified immediately afterwards so not sure why you're still focusing in on this. You know what I mean so let's leave it at that.
Being a bit pedantic I think. I would consider penalties being encompassed by the word "laws".
Had a woman left hook me to pull onto a pavement/cycle lane earlier. Came really close to hitting me, but I was quick to brake.
When I said it to her she said it was my fault for not having lights. Then when I pointed at my lights she tried to say they weren't on when she pulled in front of me.
Only yesterday evening about 5pm I had a guy in a Volvo SUV beep at me for not being in the cycle lane just 30m further ahead on the same stretch. Where it goes up and down with the dished footpath. Same guy who I witnessed driving along Fairview in the bus lane to skip the traffic, then continue straight on towards the coast from the left lane for the Malahide Road.
They ARE at a lower limit?
There are lower blood alcohol limits for professional drivers (of buses, goods vehicles and public service vehicles)
What you're saying is that all drivers should be obeying the rules. That's fine, I agree with that, but it's not realistic because a lot of people are inconsiderate and just do not care. There's a limit to how effective the penalty point system can be with the general population and an increase in penalties (e.g. driving ban after say 6 points) is not going to gain traction with the general public.
Professional drivers on the other hand will likely be a lot more careful if they knew that if they break a red light or fail to indicate that their only source of income will be affected. It's a lot easier to target these people and would have a greater impact on overall traffic safety in my opinion. Looking at some rough CSO stats, commercial vehicles average about 7 times the annual mileage a private vehicle does. Focusing in on that area can yield a much better result.
stricter rules, i guess; do the (suspended) laws which apply to HGV drivers and time behind the wheel apply to less regulated professions like taxi drivers?
to put a different skew on it, you could argue it's the type of vehicle involved which should determine the standards to which we hold the drivers to rather than professional vs. non-professional categorisation? though that might be redundant in many cases as you're pretty much a 'professional' driver if you drive some of them.
e.g. a artic driver should be held to a higher standard than a taxi driver.
I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand here. What I'm saying is that you should expect professional drivers to have a better standard of driving than your average motorist. I certainly wouldn't expect the same from your average motorist, unfortunately.
In the same way I would expect a greater level of skill from a professional carpenter compared to your mate down the road who cuts some timber from time to time!
A large %age of drivers would lose their licence in a week if they were constantly monitored and penalty points applied when laws were broken.
It is just lack of enforcement that keeps many on the road
Taxi / PSV licence was a separate document, not sure if it still is.
it's interesting that they've removed some restrictions on HGV drivers because of covid, in that context.
Your average motorist can't loose their professional driving licence if they don't drive professionally so I'm not sure what your point is there. If you're talking about your normal licence, we have the penalty point system where you're off the road after 12 points. For professional drivers, you could have say, just for arguments sake, a month's professional driving ban after 6 points. It's an additional measure for those who are on the road more often.
And there we go.
If you were wearing hi-vis, you weren't wearing enough of it. If you were clad in head-to-toe hi-vis, you didn't have lights. If you were clad in head-to-toe and had lights, you didn't have a motorcycle escort.
But surely this should be the same for all drivers, it should be really easy to lose your license if you are a sh1t driver. Average speed cameras, red light cameras, bus lane cameras etc. would sort out a huge amount of sh1te on the road very quickly.
Same here, driving for work for me means that you don't cut corners but so many are incentivised to do so. An uncle drove long distance, I think another regular posters father had the same issue, where they were being incentivised to brake less so as to keep brake wear at a minimum but also the timing cross country was such that it was legally possible from a driving perspective provided you didn't have a break. Absolute insanity. Only 2 days ago Hildegarten Naughten was bragging about how they have suspended driving time rules to accommodate the logistical issues surrounding Covid. So to make up for the understaffed and under supported sector, they are effectively giving carte blanch for employers to demand more. There is a reason it is increasingly understaffed, as pay has plummeted and conditions have hit near rock bottom, a lot of people who would have made a career out of it years ago packed it in and left
Much like Andrew, it just isn't worth the stress that it would bring to your life, as if somehow not wearing a Hi Vis or stopping just over a white line so your more visible is somehow relevant when someone tries to kill you.
So he's an asshole because she doesn't want to move over and yield to traffic that has right of way? If he was in a car she'd be moving into the empty space beside her.
Imagine driving into someone because you're that entitled. With a bloody dog on the front!
Well at least the dog seemed to be having a great time!
Really? Why so?
Get out on the bike much yourself?
That and the brake check one were unbelievable. Can accept that some people are just thick but when it's clearly deliberate it's another matter entirely
Both assholes
Night and day to the one behind who saw what was happening and held back should she need to leave that driver reverse so there are good drivers out there but all it takes is one to ruin your day or worse.
Colourful language a plenty
A lot of these are a perfect example why I'm 100% glued to the middle of the lane, every lane on every road, from now on. I had too many like this when I hugged the curb
He's a better man than me in this one. Jesus.
I've seen some of these before, but when you look at the full thread, it really is a jaw-dropping indictment of the abysmal quality of driving on Irish roads
Yep.. Hi-viz is very important... https://twitter.com/r0thar/status/1477050648982138883?s=20
Tread carefully with submitting material to this. If it is shown in mainstream media, expect to be attacked the next day with ALL the reasons why you're wrong, because you're not wearing hi-vis, and you went over that white line 10 minutes before. Expect to be doxxed too.
I had one before Christmas on St Raphaela's Road in Dublin.
If I'd been on the road bike I'd have been on the road but I was on the slow hack bike so I thought I'd try the cycle track.
A couple ahead of me were walking on the adjacent footpath and about 3 metres before I passed them the man pushed the woman (in a jocular way, they were both laughing) into the cycle track, right in front of the bike sign on the tarmac.
They were very apologetic and I just said "be careful".
Even on the coastal cycle route in Dun Laoghaire people will walk onto it without looking. I think if they don't hear a motor vehicle they assume that there's nothing coming.
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