Anyone know what is his medical exception?
I hope that your job doesn't rely in any way on the standard of argumentation skills that you've displayed here mate.
Says he works for the Australian Government and surprisingly is backing them in global debacle that has only served to make Australian Officialdom at all levels look like a hapless bunch of incompetent ass-covering opportunists for the entire world to see!
You actually couldn't make it up.
So he deliberately put people at risk of getting COVID then? Sounds like a stand up guy.
yes but he is not an Aussie they have a beef with their government, he is an elite athlete who plays the tournaments professionally as his job and when hes playing, Tennis Australia make money as do Wimbledon & the US open. The aussiess need to vote in a better government & this will cause them too I hope. Some of all the polititions all over the world have gone a bit drunk on their covid powers !! Sport should not be political at alll as it is entertainment and is good for everyone to watch to enjoy & to play.
All he won was a decision based on the technicality of not giving him the required time to reply so I still see this as an open case re whether he should be allowed in. It appears the judge was only deciding on that point of law.
I agree with everything in your post.
They need to just make the decision based on their existing requirements for entry.
If it's true that he made a false declaration re travel movements prior to entry' he will be going home.
Proven trolls are not worth engaging.
It's so interesting to observe somebody so infatuated with a sports star that they've never met that they would defend anything he has done even if it was reprehensible.
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I've made my point on you.
Seeking to purely inflame in a trollish manner is not to be given the respect of consideration.
over and out.
I never said I work for the Australian government. Speaking of standards, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.
After taking off the inverting glasses I normally wear, not a problem
posts the below and is backing the Australian government to the hilt - actual logical assumption - well couldn't be bothered then what cryptic meaning it has then tbh!
(Even though the Australian elected officials at all levels are projecting themselves as weaselling incompetents for the world to see over the last week, more focused on trying to pass blame to different parts of their own government mechanisms than anything else (State and Federal) and just deepening the faeces-filled hole that they have managed to dig for themselves)
What makes you think you can cherrypick a few isolated voices and choose to believe them because it suits you? Vaccines shorten the amount of time at peak viral load. It's in the same study from The Lancet that the anti-vaxxers are using to show that the viral load peaks out at about the same in vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Valid scepticism would be accompanied by actual inquiry. Instead, it's just tantrums about not wanting to do even the slightest thing to help society. Millions of people have had the vaccine at this stage, there's been more research into that data than any one moron with a degree from the university of life can Google in a lifetime.
You bother engaging because you're on the defensive and want to persuade people (and maybe yourself?) that your motives aren't entirely rooted in self-interest.
That's just on the plastic folder they used to give you with a new passport. Latest one's just a boring transparent sleeve.
Did an Australian public official steal your lollipop when you were a kid? Jeez, get a grip. At least they can build a state of the art childrens hospital for about half the cost the local geniuses managed, maybe less, because I think the final cost is still a state secet?.
There's only one person looking really bad in this whole scenario and that's Djokovic. He's looking like the guy that doesn't care about anybody but himself and the guy that's willing to con to get his way.
well in fairness you could have done more to indicate that was a passport in my humble opinion as I'm not au fait with all passport fronts for countries (especially out-of-date ones)
you might see how possibly it might lead someone to come up with the idea that you may have a government connection
Perhaps you shouldn't be so silly as to go saying you don't believe someone when they say they are a citizen of a foreign country in the first place in a futile attempt to point score via innuendo of deceit.
I'm not the one cherrypicking here. To say that the unvaccinated are spreading the virus more is little more than a speculative hunch. Jab yourself twice a year all you like, no skin off my nose.
Ireland has one of the highest levels of vaccine compliance in the world and yet has one of the worst case per 100k rates in the world. This is one inconvenient statistic and unfortunately for you, the most important.
"But it's the antivaxxers fault!!!" :(
hey I said that I was inclined to believe you due to the detection of some well-known traits!
that was far from any of the actual thrust of the argument really.
Roll Nole Roll
Almost two years into the pandemic, how can you still be this dumb and misinformed?
That noose must be getting pretty tight around Djokovic's neck...
It was in my last post, vaccinated people have a shorter duration where they're shedding and infecting others. Yes, we have an enormous number of cases, 13th in the World, but we're 74th for the death rate (a quick check on Worldometers). Just maybe our high rate of vaccine compliance has something to do with that. I'd say get a few doctors and nurses on here to tell stories about unvaccinated people filling ICU beds and asking if they can have the vaccine, but you wouldn't listen to them because you already know everything.
The best way to deal with the anti-vax, anti-lockdown, anti-mask, anti-anything that is even slightly inconvenient to them crowd is to treat them like the whining children they are and refuse to let them play with the rest of us. There needs to be an incentive for them to get the jab and follow the rules; the wellbeing of others clearly isn't a motivation for them.
So if you are vaccinated in New York city you have a 0.5% chance of catching covid. If you are unvaccinated you have a 3% chance.
Right, lets round up every antivaxxer in Ireland, hold them down and jab them before it's too late!
It's all fun and games until the unvaccinated person is asking if it's too late for them to get the vaccine whilst they are on high flow oxygen in hospital.
The hospitalisation numbers are also in that thread, knock yourself out.
There are 80 in ICU and they refuse to tell us the split between vac/unvac. Until they give us this data, I don't think I will lose any sleep over it.
I never like Djokovic until this case. He seems to be unfairly held up as a target by the Australian politicians who look like they can scapegoat him to please angry Aussies. My understanding is that he is legally allowed to play. But people are so frustrated with the lockdowns that they want to project their ire onto someone rich and famous.
I would be very happy if he plays and wins the tournament! It will be like Brexit/Trump all over again the next day :)
Now let's move on to sports: the whole world is talking about the test certificates of a tennis player right now. #Djokovic
It's about Novak Đoković. He recently entered Australia. Without vaccination, but with two PCR test certificates. A positive test result from December 16 and a negative test result from December 22. He is therefore considered to be recovered.
Thus, he received a special permit to enter the country unvaccinated - which was then considered insufficient upon entry. In the meantime, however, a court has ruled that he may enter the country for the time being.
In cooperation with @TheMirror we have also taken a look at the court documents and tried to understand the technical connections.
PCR test results are administered in Serbia via a state test result registry. After the test, you get a test certificate with a QR code. Scanning this takes you to the test registry website and allows you to validate the test.
However, the website itself contains only part of the information on the paper certificate: the name of the person tested, the test result and a test number.
It is therefore not possible to check when someone was tested using the test result page.
Because we like to look at URLs when we do research, we did that in this case as well.
An exciting detail stands out immediately: The URL contains a code that starts with a Unix timestamp.
https://i.imgur.com/DYsEWGb.png
Unix timestamps are a standard to represent points in time. The seconds are counted up since 1.1.1970 at midnight. The current time is thus: 1641903476, i.e. about 1.6 billion seconds since the beginning of the "Unix time calculation".
And this timestamp from the certificate (1640187792) can also be converted to a human-readable time; in the negative test of December 22, the timestamp and the date in the test certificate match.
In #Djokovic's positive PCR test, which according to the court document was evaluated on December 16, the timestamp (1640524880) is from ... Drum ... December 26. Wait, something is wrong Thinking face
There is also a "confirmation code" on the test results page. We were able to find some more tests and found that the first part of this code is an ascending test ID and roughly corresponds to the number of PCR tests reported for Serbia at that time.
But there is something else strange about #Djokovic's positive PCR test result: the test ID of the positive test (7371999) from Dec. 16 is larger than that of the negative test from Dec. 22 (7320919). So the supposedly earlier test was entered into the system later. Thinking face
And also if we look at the test numbers reported by Serbia on https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-16..2021-12-22&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~SRB, there were about 75,000 tests performed in period from Dec 16 to Dec 22 - but the test IDs of #Djokovic differ only by 50,000.
This number fits much better if we believe the timestamp and assume 12/26 as the date of the positive test: Because between 12/22 and 12/26 about 50,000 tests were reported (https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2021-12-22..2021-12-26&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Tests&Interval=Cumulative&Relative+to+Population=false&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=~SRB) - so matching many to the documents at hand.
EDIT: Seems like UNIX timestamp is when the report was generated - https://twitter.com/blokovi/status/1480938239515148297
credit: De Spiegel
How dare you attack our beloved HSE!
July - November figures are freely available on the CSO website and have already been posted in the thread. What's your next excuse?
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