Anyone know what is his medical exception?
The first point I assume is to do with if he should be isolating while awaiting results of a PCR test. Your opinion is clearly that he should. Mine is that it is dependant on the reason for the test.
The second point is I'm not sure what. I asked who here thought it was fine that he was hugging kids while positive. The only thing you can find is a post from yourself on another thread?
Daniel Ricciardo (F1) returned to Australia after the race season finished before Christmas. He had to do 14 days or so in quarantine hotel before being released into population. He said he wasn't looking forward to it but we didn't see him cheating the rules to get out of it.
Not sure if I've ever seen fake moralising on this level before!
Jaysus some amount of bile and publicity over one man and his COVID status
I saw some of them saying travel within Europe doesn't count as travel....talk about clutching at straws...
They probably have enough to toss him out if they want now....but of course if they do that Djokovic will likely challenge it
Hope he gets thrown out for 3 years.
He is playing with the system to make his situation fit when it clearly doesn't.
-Medical situation too late for exemption.
-Question mark over his declared travel.
-Not observing covid restrictions when positive.
Tennis Australia are probably as much at fault here as anyone but that doesn't mean government have to soften their stance.
Minister should have him questioned further.
If his covid cert was scanning as negative, surely that would give the Australian government authority to question his certification without causing a diplomatic incident.
I wonder what the top punishment is for blatant lying on a travel declaration
12 months in jail, but I assume most people are just deported.
Interesting to see his supporters on Twitter have now switched from "he followed all the rules, why should he be treated differently?" to "well, that rule doesn't really matter, he's hardly a terrorist like".
Thats got to be on the upper end of travel declaration offences. Its 1 thing forgetting you packed some snacks in your luggage and then find out you arent allowed to bring them into Australia. You pay your fine.
But "forgetting" you travelled to Spain? Oh dear. I wonder what the top punishment is for blatant lying on a travel declaration. By that I obviously dont mean what will happen to Djokovic. I mean would a non-celeb nobody get jailed for that? Im sure its happened. I can't see how they can let him stay if its investigated and found that he travelled and lied about it on his declaration. Surely there'd be a massive backlash.
The cert is being doubted by journalists. The QR code was showing negative test yesterday. Coupled with Novak's whimsical gatherings during his covid period , there is evidence to suggest he did not have it. Or he's a knacker. Either one.
A selected quote
"He was being pcr tested routinely people have claimed (not sure of source)
But as I posted on another thread earlier on about that Tennis awards picture
If it was a case of either wanting to believe either of (deliberately extreme in the case of option 1)
There are those who will go for option 1 and those who go for option 2 and that was already pre-decided"
None of which negates that he wasn't socially isolating whilst covid positive. It's not even just about safety, it's more so about human decency.
Who here thinks that is fine?
My point RE: "roll red roll"is that his supporters can't see the wood for the tree when it comes to people they admire and they vehemently defend them even though it's obvious they have been devious. Would you be happy for someone with MDRTB to hug your child whilst actively positive? Some people on here think that is fine as long as the person is a sports star and famous.
Why should it?
He had covid on the 16th, he turned up at multiple events on the 17th and 18th. Clearly there is something to it given how quickly his dad and brother (I am guessing) shutdown their press conference when asked about it yesterday. He also declared he hadn't travelled for 14 days before his arrival..which doesn't seem to be true because he flew between two countries...
There is no proof he had it other than the certificate saying he had it. If you doubt the cert then you are really doubting all certs from Serbia as you are saying an official cert from Serbia can't be trusted. That would be interesting if the Australians went down that route.
Would an anti-vaxxer organise a vaccine drive?
Shouldn't this be in a conspiracy theory forum?
Fantasies? Der Spiegel and a New York times reporter saying that his QR code was returning a negative test yesterday HMMMMMMM.
Media reporting that the QR code on Novaks test result from Dec 16 was “not positive”. It’s since been changed to positive.
Additionally they’re reporting that on his travel entry form he declared he hadn’t travelled within 14 days of arrival in Australia. Looks like he had in fact travelled between Spain and Belgrade.
Cruelty never goes away, it’s only ever restrained.
This is a clear case where a VIP is getting preferential treatment to the ordinary man with the same laws and rules in play for both.
He should still be kicked out.
There is a lot more to this saga than a couple of lines bow-tied up will summarise
These two podcasts in order are very good if you want to get an interesting and decent overview
[No Challenges Remaining] Episode 321: Deciphering Details of Djokovic’s Deportation Drama #noChallengesRemaining
https://podcastaddict.com/episode/133676360 via @PodcastAddict
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[The Sports Desk] Djokovic’s latest Australian victory: from courtroom to practice court #theSportsDesk
https://podcastaddict.com/episode/133819130 via @PodcastAddict
status, wealth, notoriety and fame have simply always opened locked doors… here is just another example….
funny how the Australians have always had strict policy on entering the country, who can enter, the rules that are to be abided by etc…
“You must be of good character to visit or live in Australia. This means you must pass the character test, and remain of good character.”
“You will not be admitted if you could ..
basically if you are a famous sports person the rules don’t apply to you… comes as no surprise on looking that the government and PM there are decidedly right of centre…
one of the hallmarks of right wing organisations, people, political or otherwise is that they systematically and repeatedly fail to live up to the standards in life themselves which they demand from others…
Markus, bus driver, unvaccinated from Dubrovnik would be told to sling his hook.
These comments sum up the case well...
"The court case that Djokovic won was over procedures ie the government said they would give him until 8.30 am to provide info but then dishonorably reneged and cancelled his VISA at around 7.45 am. If they had left it until 8.30 his VISA would have been cancelled and he and his entourage would be long departed from Australia by now.
From the evidence provided it was clear (rightly or wrongly) that he was not eligible for a VISA under commonwealth rules - ie he was not double vaxxed and did not have a severe medical condition preventing him from getting vaxxed."
Yes, they're crazily strict, to the point that many Australians had trouble getting home. I think that's why it hasn't played well there. Many Australians saw a guy being allowed to play by different rules because he was good at a sport. If he did have a genuine exemption and it was in line with the rules we plebs have to follow there shouldn't be an issue. If he was granted an exemption just because of who he is it's the Australian govt. who should be taking the heat here. A tennis star with some mad beliefs isn't the real issue.
If only Djokovic had had a half-cooked snake and a tiger-skin jockstrap in his bag and this whole thing would have been a lot more straightforward for them but he didn't and the Aussies made a complete balls of it.
Nothing to do with individual risk. It's just that Australian immigration rules have been incredibly strict since the pandemic commenced. Why should Djokovic get a free pass on this when an ordinary bloke from Sydney or Melbourne can't? Australian public opinion appears to be against him on this and even many Aussie sports journalists have criticised him.
How on earth would stopping unvaccinated footballers from playing in premier League crash the UK economy? Hahaha. Not a move I'd be in favour of at all but eh I think they'd be okay.
This thread looks like its fun
If you stopped every premier league player from playing if they were unvaccinated you would probably crash the UK economy. It would take some serious mental acrobatics to think the man is purposely trying to brew up some kind of controversy.
Someone has never watched Border Security Australia's Front Line they take all matters seriously
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