Yes, I read about the bitcoin mining. Not something that springs to mind initially for most people, came as a surprise to me. It could well influence the decisions being taking by all involved.
There is a lot of Bitcoin investment in Kazakhstan ,not investment more Bitcoin mining operations on a large scale , there could well be other players getting involved too, expect Russia to say they are going into fight terrorists ,or in other words ordinary people maybe looking for Democratic change in a autocratic leadership
Have been reading and listening to a lot on this situation over the last few days. Hard to get a handle on what is going on exactly. Lots of different angles are being put forward and reported on.
Seems fairly certain though that Russia (and probably China) aren't going to let this get out of hand. Its too strategic an area.
It appears your worldview is a lot more juvenile and blinkered than even the "USA bad, Russia good" claptrap that you are trying to paint others with. You can't think for yourself so you blindly stick to what is spoonfed to you in western media circles. It doesn't even occur to you to question any of it. And when anybody challenges you, you can't engage in intelligent discourse but rather you make adolescent little quips about them being paid disseminators. A real sign of petty tantrums and a complete lack of understanding of anything that you are talking about.
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You forgot the cia rocket pack man
Yeah and remember the pictures of columns of Russian tanks streaming into Ukraine. Except the pictures were from years previously in a completely different country. And remember the pictures of gas cannisters lying on beds in Syria having apparently crashed through the roof. Pictures that turned out to be complete fakes. Still suckers like you will always fall for these propaganda tricks and will flatly refuse to admit to being fooled. Even when pictures and events are proven to be fabrications people like you go quiet for a brief period of time and then come back and repeat the bullsh1t. It's as if your brain just can't admit that you were suckered.
What are you spoofing about Israel in a Russia thread ......
You can try changing the subject or derailing it won't change a thing ....
What's with these threads attracting useful idiots???
You claimed that the IDF only sustained maybe 10 hits on their tanks and that these tanks were all back in service in a week or two. That equates to them not having lost any tanks. That is what you said of the 2006 Lebanon War. If you deny having said this then you are just bald-face lying.
What regime are you talking about and who's praising and defending it?
You're the one who is making comparisons and then accusing me of making comparisons. Throw in a few cutesy and flippant jibes about being a paid Russian agent too. Do you use that brilliant insult "libtard" as well?
Does Moscow, St Petersburg, the Baltic states and 24 of the 50 US states count?
@Elmer Blooker Don’t forget Russians make up 30% of the population in Kazakhstan.
20.2% of the population , Kazakhstanis make up 67% and Ukrainian ,urhurs, Germans ,tars ,ubzezhs make up another 10%.
Maybe people got fed up of being treated as if they were still part of the Soviet union , maybe they want to make their own decisions about their country and not what someone in Moscow wants,
So little need for russian troops
It seems that the current president of Kasakhstan (Kassym-Jomart Tokayev) decided to use the protests to oust Nazarbaev from power, and thus the protests were allowed to escalate. The goal of removing Nazarbaev from power seems to have been achieved. However, the protests are now out of Tokaev's control as the army (or some part of it) is not following Tokaev. The weapons are from different branches of Kazakh military.
But they aren’t peaceful protests over gas prices. At the moment the army seems to be behind the government and the protesters heavily armed. Does it seem normal to take up arms over price rises ( I nearly fainted when I got my recent gas bill, know anywhere I can get an AK47?)
Where have these weapons come from and how did they get into the country?
The Russians are probably correct to intervene on behalf of their CSTO allies to prevent civil war on their border. Don’t forget Russians make up 30% of the population in Kazakhstan.
It's not going great if you have to call in Russian "peacekeepers" to calm down people protesting over gas prices. Obviously that's just the catalyst and there's the usual story of government corruption in the background.
I don't know enough about the situation to understand what might happen next - I thought it was surprising that the president fired Nursultan Nazarbayev (the former "president") from their security council, maybe he's getting a bit old (he's 81) and Putin doesn't want him around any more?
Cracks starting to appear in Putins inner circle of warlords?
Needing Russian forces to bail him out as his own soldiers may join the protesters.
It's interesting how quick the cracks can appear in these post Soviet regimes. Just look at Belarus last year. If a couple of them rose at the same time. Putin would have a very difficult time controlling them.
As like a poster earlier said, Chechnya is not secure either.
Wasting your time, your dealing with a pair of socks looking for some attention under the guise they are from the troll factory in Moscow ,
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. This place was supposed to be a dictatorship for decades and yet the natives are only getting restless NOW? Funny that.
One explanation is that there is new generation of young people that are tired of the same old stupid politicians in power.
Typical whataboutery. I am not discussing the US here. I treat all the "global spheres of influence" as a BS designed to hoodwink people into suffering for the benefit of their corrupt leaders. But regardless of this, any government that invites foreign forces to intervene in the country's own internal disputes is selling its own responsibility to a foreign power and will have to pay for it in one way or another.
Unless NATO would go to war to defend Kazakhstan (and they wouldn't) they are most definitely not "de facto members".
What an idiotic post, I’ve been around here long enough to know that when a poster resorts to juvenile insults and personal attacks they have nothing to say for themselves.
They are in what’s known as the NATO ‘partnership’ and are de facto members so trivial matters such as ‘democracy’ and corruption by the family that owns Azerbaijan can be conveniently ignored.
It's all murica , murica, murica.
Who's defending what? You're just making accusations now. You don't like someone questioning the narrative. Maybe because you are incapable of taking a step back and asking some simple questions. Consequently your default gear is to bite your teddybear.
I don't think that Russia are doing all the crap that you think they are supposed to be doing. You don't like someone who can think for themselves, hence the strop.
Kazakhstan is an authoritarian thugocracy (so I'm told). But it has been for quite a while now. Lo and behold they are just kicking off. The usual playbook. This place was supposed to be a dictatorship for decades and yet the natives are only getting restless NOW? Funny that.
And it's the Russians who are the baddies all of a sudden. The US is trying to once again fcuk with states bordering Russia in order to draw the country into a protracted conflict. You would want to be a blinkered retard to miss that.
Up to you.
@correct horse battery staple Remember that time an expensive and advanced anti aircraft missile platform developed a sentient AI and driven itself across the Russian border to shoot down a passenger plane full of Europeans only to drive itself back.
Yeh something similar happened in Syria, those were totally not Russian mercenaries using chemical weapons on civilians /s.
Rt says it didn't happen but they did Say it was the cia who shot down flight MH17 using a man with a jet pack
I'm going to go out on a limb here.
(Deep breath)
Would you classify Kazahkstan as within the Russian sphere of influence? The same way that the American Monroe Doctrine determines US control both economically and militarily over the entire Western Hemisphere? The US reserves the right to influence and ultimately interfere in the workings in every country from Canada to Mexico to Guatamala to Honduras to Panama to Venezuela to Bolivia all the way down to Tierra Del Fuego.....next stop Antartica. If you are OK with that 200 year old doctrine then why do you have a problem with the Russians controlling countries that they actually border?
You don’t know know what you’re talking about, at the break up of the Soviet Union some Azerbaijanis took the opportunity to settle old scores with Armenians in Baku and murdered many in pogroms. The tanks went in to restore order and to protect the defenceless Christian Armenians.
On the subject of Azerbaijan, would you consider that country to be a dic(k)tatorship? Probably not as they are they de facto NATO members and therefore valued allies.
@BurgerFace You've claimed that the IDF didn't lose a single tank in the 2006 invasion of Lebanon. That's news to the Israeli generals who were there and witnessed scores being destroyed and their crews being incinerated....
Where did I claim that ,
Oh that's right I didn't .
Maybe start a new thread for your lies
"The Russians did not bomb over 100 civilian hospitals, schools and clinics"
Yes they did ...
The Russians did not bomb over 100 civilian hospitals, schools and clinics. And if as you claim the Russians engaged a US force....why were the US in Syria? They weren't invited into the country. You don't like to admit it but the Russians hammered ISIS out of the place, isolated them on the border with Iraq and the US were left to do nothing. Again I'm sure you will try to swing it as if the US swanned in and just "rocked"...like Black Hawk Down or some fantasy. But you are completely wrong. You claim to have facts all the time and they are just plucked out of thin air. Maybe to satisfy your dream world.
You've claimed that the IDF didn't lose a single tank in the 2006 invasion of Lebanon. That's news to the Israeli generals who were there and witnessed scores being destroyed and their crews being incinerated. I saw their interviews. I read their reports. But hey.....you know more than anyone.
Where did I say any of that......?
That's right I didn't your just making up lies ...
Can I speak to your supervisor
Paid for what? Exactly? If someone has a dissenting opinion or at the very least they are questioning one narrative over another then suddenly they are paid? Do you see me accusing you of being paid to peddle your ideas? No. Why? Because it's childish and I'm a little bit bigger than that. But keep calling people names if you can't engage in a level discourse. I won't get offended.
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