I'm not comparing either. Let your mind boggle away. You're going one step into the twilight zone by comparing the Irish government bringing in the SAS because of beer riots.
You support domestic dissent and oppose any outside influence to crush it, I take it? How do you feel about the Bahrain demonstrations during the Arab Spring being crushed by Saudi tanks from across the border? The US looked on and enjoyed the carnage.
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It was aligned with your claims of Russian military incompetence. How the Russian military is so pathetic that they can barely move a mile without things breaking down. IF your claims about them are so accurate then what is the worry. Andorra could smash them in a half hour.
Wouldn't the same be true for humanitarian aid? How would I feel if Mexicans sent shiploads of rice to Ireland during the Famine? After all it's an "internal problem, no?"
How did the Syrians feel about the Russians bombing the sh1t out of the everything and anyone who didn't support Assad ,
The Russians Had very little involvement in fighting isis , several hundred Russians had a go a a small US and Kurdish force which didn't go so well for the russians , hundreds dead in just over an hour,
Yeah definitely didn't hit isis ,
But they did bomb schools and hospitals and clinics in Syria , something like 100+civilian hospitals and clinics bombed by russian aircraft ,
I'm sure Syrians are delighted with Russia 💣💣💣🤯🤯🤯
Now you want to know how I would "feel"? It all depends on the motives. If armed gangs foreign and/or domestic were marauding around burning, looting and terrorising and outside forces were brought in to stop the carnage then I would imagine I would welcome peace and stability. Would you have your family burnt out of house and home and then butchered in the street and not accept help purely because of your nationalist views. Yeah, your daughter is about to be gang raped and then have her throat slit but you will say "OK, this is a terrible eventuality, but I'll be damned if I accept foreign assistance to save my child"?
I would certainly hope the security forces of my country could help my plight but if they couldn't I would happily have a Russian put a bullet in the heads of the mob. Maybe you would be a bit more discerning as to who helped you. Me, not so much.
I don't really know. How would the Lebanese or the Congolese feel about Irish peacekeepers coming into their countries? How did the Syrians feel about the Russians bombing the sh1t out of the ISIS gangs financed and sent in from abroad to wreck Damascus and Aleppo. For all intents and purposes they seemed happy enough with it. I guess it all depends on what the endgame is or what you're being told or more importantly what you believe despite the facts.
Were the French happy in 1944? Were the Cambodians happy in 1978 when the Vietnamese went in to destroy the Khmer Rouge? I don't know. You tell me.
The only reason that they'd bring in troops from outside their borders is because they can't risk sending out their own troops ..
Ah but when it comes to Russia there is no such thing as Sovereignty , just oh it's was voted on by russians there fore legitimate, there was already public calls from members of Russian Duma to annex ancestral russian Kazakhstan
It is more correctly to ask "How would you feel if the Irish government asked to bring British special forces into the Republic of Ireland to deal with internal protests?".
I would feel that such government no longer represents its country. It is basically surrendering the sovereignty of the state to external forces.
What has that got to do with what I wrote. People are talking about Russia being about to invade and annex Kazakhstan. More rubbish talk. I mentioned that this would be rather strange since they are members of a security alliance. In order to enter into a security alliance you must respect and recognise each others borders. That would be a rather stupid thing to do if you intended to NOT respect a member's borders by invading and annexing a country. I sometimes wonder if people on these threads even stop for a second to think before they spew out their geopolitical brainfarts.
There was widespread "unhappiness" with the results of the last election,,especially when no genuine opposition party was allowed to run, and the winner basically was and still is the former leader, Nursultan Nazarbayev, who held power for the previous 30 years. its an unhappy electorate, and unless Putin can install another Kadyrov as he did in Chechnya, he is facing a lot of unrest. Even Chechnya, is not totally peacefully...its kept peaceful only by massive back-up from Putin. There are lots of Chechens living in the woods, especially young fighting age men.
Well seeing as the secretariat of the alliance hasn't disclosed the size of the deployment force can you explain how you are in possession of the numbers?
That's not really putting things into perspective at all.
Like nato ?
Are you referring to me?
Well in order to enter into a security pact/alliance the very first thing that all parties agree upon is the recognition of each others borders. That's "alliance 101" that any fool would understand.
I'm sure Russian and Belarusian troops will be voting in the next Russian annexation
The absolute majority of the forces deploying are Russian sf ........
I don't really know what you mean by that. From what I gather all the aforementioned countries are members of a military and security alliance.
I'm sure they were. Warlords gotta stick together!
Troops from Belarus, Tajikistan, Krygystan, Armenia and Turkmenistan have also been sent. From what I gather they were requested.
Ah yes 'Peacekeepers'
Looks like the plan to incorporate Kazakhstan has to be brought forward.
Yeah seems there is bigger issues than fuel prices ,
Apparently only ⅕ of the population identify as russian but I'm sure it would turn into a massive majority if putin wanted to ,at the same time it went from Kazakhstan must sort it internal issues itself to deploying spetzna forces to "keep the peace "
There has been several posts on here, where Kazakhstan was mentioned, and the question asked why Putin had not already annexed it, and my response was it was on the list of "To Do", and all in good time.....but seems like the good people of Kazakhstan have forced his hand. They don't want to be annexed either.
Following several days of violent protests about rising fuel prices and inflation in kazakhstan, Russia is now sending several thousand "peacekeepers" to help maintain law and order ,ie prop up another sham government ala Belarus and Yanukovych in Ukraine ,
makes you wonder how fronts Putin thinks he can fight on
Would think I have more experience of the joint than yourself, comrade, bol'shoye spasibo i poka
@BurgerFace If, as our resident military expert , Gatling, who claims that the Russians are so primitive that they only have one pair of boots per 10 men, then why the worry?
Lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where the fauq did you make that up from????
What was your other account?
If what you say is true then why are so many people worried about this nothing of a country?
If Russia is so impotent then why the panic?
If, as our resident military expert , Gatling, who claims that the Russians are so primitive that they only have one pair of boots per 10 men, then why the worry?
If the country is dying. If their military is a rickety and useless operation. If they can't jump start a tank. If they have a few submarines that are just death-traps. If their pilots have to go to a shop (Gatling's claim) to buy a GPS system and duct-tape it to the dashboard of their fighter jets then really there ought not to be much to fret about, no?
The 100,000 on the Ukrainian border must be eating their own toenails and scratching around looking for frozen cowpats to eat before the great invasion.
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