No. It means F all in this context. Daniel TduP couldn't be arsed to travel to the place of his wife's demise. He lied about arranging to meet her at Toulouse airport on a flight from Dublin on Christmas Day. If being a rotten partner indicates guilt then look no further than Daniel.
The act does, the drawing of it doesn`t. What is your point exactly?
Does bondage require testosterone?
Yes, I understand what you meant.
I agreed, in both cases it counts for absolutely nothing in a court of law here.
My point was it cuts both ways.if being violent had a bearing on toni it would have bearing on ian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUYcAccrxwc
Neither Ian being violent to Jules or Tomi Ungerer having a penchant for S&M mean anything, when it comes to murdering sophie.
Tibs is making a point that amounts to nothing. It would prove nothing.
The only reason Tomi should have been a suspect is because he was one of the last people to see her alive and they had a deep and meaningful.
I think he's super interesting, personally. I also don't think he murdered sophie.
If you could show that he was a violent man and assaulted his wife then you might have something
but this does not mean anything in relation to Bailey?
Three months ago this was said about Drew Harris in relation to reform in AGS ;
"He says the plans for the oversight agencies are too complex and it is not clear how they will operate and overlap. The lack of clarity about how the new board, for example, would overlap with the new Policing and Community Safety Authority risked “encroaching on the operational independence” of the office of Garda Commissioner."
The Garda Commissioner has proven he's not afraid to tackle corruption in the force. How would it look if he could get a 'win' in the STDP case? Wouldn't that have the politicians falling over themselves to come to his defence in any argument about ceding powers?
Ungerer was a pensioner in 1996. If you could show that he was a violent man and assaulted his wife then you might have something. Men tend to think about sex a lot. Few are talented enough to transfer those thoughts onto paper like he did. At age 65, I seriously doubt the testosterone was raging inside of him.
There would appear to be many avenues the cold case investigation being mooted (or threatened?) can go down where some Guard admits to doing something they shouldn't have. Something enough to see Bailey almost exonerated but not enough to do much else. It would be much better if something like that came out and meant a cold case review wasn't warranted. That's what the state needs.
In Bailey's action against the Guards, Detective Fitzgerald admitted writing out one of Marie Farrell's statements from memory about a week after she'd been interviewed. He wrote it in the first person as that made it 'easier' for him.
Here's a picture of him
Tomi Ungerer was fairly highly esteemed. He would have used something like this image to represent a person. it's easy see why
Its the loose cannon types that end up in miscarriages of justice. The kind who are their own worst enemy.
Of course some times they are guilty... but we are expected to believe this was a drunken frenzy kinda of attack by Bailey where he was scratched at the scene in the Garda narrative but there is no evidence of him at the scene as the DPP report calls out. No evidence to conceal scratches despite that being easy to do given time of year.
There is no motive that would point to him premeditating it.
His alibi is iffy but thats not positive proof against him.
Im satisfied theres not enough evidence to try him let alone convict him. Im certain if he did it he did not do it as per the Garda / marie farrell version. He is entitled to presumption of innocence but I would find him innocent on balance of probabilities.
Yes. It is the narrative that everyone else was squeaky clean and there was one bad hombre in West Cork I find annoying. Imagine if that drawing was done by Bailey. It would be everywhere as proof positive he was a misogynistic psycho. But it was done by the the guy Sophie was visiting on the Sunday so it is "art" and somehow the Holocaust is dragged in to excuse him.
Is that Tomi Ungerer?
Have you watched the documentary about him?
I linked it in my old profile about a month ago pages back.
Well it could be seen as humourously saying that if you want the subject of a life drawing not to move, something artists get very annoyed about
Body language expertise is a pseudoscience which doesn't take in a huge amount of other factors, eg undiagnosed neurodiversity etc.
Unfortunately people like to believe it.
Thankfully it would be thrown out of court here.
Can we get these personality experts to look at the guy who drew this and the woman who was wanting to do a documentary with him?
If the preliminary investigation has thrown up any Guard prepared to say that correct procedures weren't followed, would that be enough to suggest that the file the French received was compromised meaning more confusion?
Yeah, I agree. I thought he was innocent originally, but not so much anymore.
But I understand why people would think his is or isn't - Not being normal (what even is normal? haha) doesn't mean anything really, it doesn't mean he's a murderer. Even his violent past doesn't convince me. Its something else, his personality and how he represents himself.. I know everyone is different, handles grief differently etc... but there is something about him tbh... I dunno, you'd think if he eas innocent he'd be much more vocal about the "corruption" and stop telling the story and go into depth about it (on his terms) because an innocent person would want this to end and not for the story to keep rolling?
I dunno, just my thoughts - dont attack me haha
I agree though, Iwould love to see what a body language experts thinks aswel.
Very strange man almost beyond belief. Would love to hear a few experts on personality types and how guilty he is? The body language experts were very daming. I'm not sure but think he loves the spotlight and notoriety of the case but isn't guilty. Just a dose.
Hey everyone, I've been following this thread and the whole case with alot of interest in the last few months. I read Nick Fosters book and I found it brilliant.
The recent article in this thread about the Limerick solictors is a load of bollocks. I thought this was an amazing find, then I went researching and its actually unrelated to anything. Some spoofer who should banned. link for ref;
www.limerickpost.ie/2021/12/16/move-to-transfer-garda-corruption-trial-out-of-limerick
A thought that always crossed my mind was this. The whole case has alot of confusion yes. In interviews bailey always does genuinely come across as verg genuine.. but only on his narrative,if he controls the flow of the conversation. Look back any interview and you'll see. He is verg comfortable telling his story or answering questions that have already been answered in the case, anything else and he'll become uncomfortable (understandable in a way but...) he loves rehashing the same answers on the case and nothing else. listen to the recent podcast with the craic with Alan O Sullivan in Cork(I think thats his name)and you'll see what I mean. bad interviewer and bailey keeps bringing him back to his control.
One thing I always wondered was this. Bailey comes across as a caring, reasonable, lovely man in interviews. He is told to be a crazy psychotic man by locals and rumours... Remember that scene in Jim Sheridans doc when he pulls he tooth out with a pliers on the camera... I'm sorry, I know it doesn't mean he's guilty or crazy or anything.. but that must have been a bit of evidence to non locals that the guy can be a lose cannon on alcohol? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is not normal.
There might be a photo on his death notices or on his anniversary. I don't have access to the archives
Also if the paper did an obituary on him it might have photo
No photographs exist of this man, it seems. It would have been interesting to see what he looked like given his reputed extreme handsomeness.
He was a detective garda (plain clothed) so Doc Martin boots would not be part of his regular attire, if on duty.
Especially not in this case!!
It's utterly baffling how people continue to deny it, truly.
Absolutely, gards in this country have got away with corruption like this for too long & this no doubt contributed in a large way to the lack of prosecution in the STDP death. Its absolutely criminal that those given such trust by the public in positions of authority abuse it in the way that they do. Again, GSOC needs to be dismantled, a new investigating authority put in its place, detective immunity needs to be removed & those found guilty of corruption need to be given stiff custodial sentences.
The fact that it was 4 gardai & a superintendent that were involved in this corruption should be a wake up call to the plebs among us who think this is not a problem in Ireland. Shocking!!
Ah no, members of AGS engaged in corrupt activities. Doesn't happen 🤪
From the Limerick Post yesterday;
"SOLICITORS have indicated that they will seek to move the trial of four gardaí and a retired Superintendent, charged as part of a major corruption investigation, out of Limerick.
Limerick Circuit Court heard that legal representatives for the five accused have been sent correspondence from the DPP’s legal team seeking to transfer the trial to Dublin."
The most interesting part of this is that a very senior retired officer will be tried. That must be sending a message out to people that you are not safe in retirement if you have questions to answer, no matter how senior you are.
@flopisit for a seemingly intelligent person you'd want to get a firm grip of yourself and shake furiously. You are hook line an sinker believing a total load of cods wallop. I also can see you picked one point from about 10 that don't add up. The reality is it's exceptionally difficult to square some of the obvious circles with this case per my breakdown of which there are many. In Drew we trust. Today it's "A garda has appeared in court in Co Meath charged with 110 offences in relation to alleged corruption." Hopefully we can go back in time and right the past wrongs for the family of STDP.
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