Wow.
No, it's not healthier to have a second person blindly following religious beliefs being allowed to come in as some weird act of balancing another person blindly following religious beliefs. Healthier will be to reject persons blindly following religious beliefs, we don't need more of them and they are of no benefit to us.
What a weird example, but yeah... two people each following a different blind set of beliefs is healthier than 2 following the same set of blind beliefs.
I don't think I said that. I just think we were starved of diversity, and for that reason have paid a high price.
So I made up the phrase E Pluribus Unum? Ok, if you say so....
Standard operational self hate towards "old Ireland". Quite the fashion. It's a trait we seem to have when talking about the past and those who ruled over us. The English were to blame for all our ills and the Church would come to save us. Until we got shot of them and in turn they became the blame for all our ills. Now for some it's diversity that will save us from ourselves. Until in time, it won't and we'll blame that too.
You'll also note this "cultural improvement" in play in the wider multucultural context, but only ever in one direction and of a particular focus with it. In the multuculturalist narrative and politic it's only ever White, Western, nominally "christian" cultures and peoples that seem to be in such dire need of diversity to fix their long list of apparent and usually imagined ills. And this diversity has to be as "exotic" as possible. 200,000 pale Swedes living here in Ireland wouldn't cut the diversity mustard for the multuculturalist mindset. Indeed here in Ireland the vast majority of the recent history migrant demographic are White Europeans in background, but you'd be forgiven for not realising that as the multuculturalists, the vested interest NGO's and their right wing racist opponents are all obsessed by skin colour. And none among the multucultural flag wavers would ever come close to promoting the idea that what a Black, African, non christian culture and people really need to fix all their apparent societal ills is an influx of thousands of White Westerners.
Right, so you say we shouldn't allow in that cohort that blindly follows fundamentalist religious percepts? Make society more diverse as in bring in more people that don't consider women equal, that value their religion more than the human rights and science and secular concepts? what good would it do?
What ?? The Irish are naturally immoral degenerates and need other cultures to improve us ?
I'm not going to send what I originally typed but Luttrell.. c'mon.
It's only within the last 100 years that people have started to move far from their homelands, except in times of extreme danger. The vast majority of people in a region would remain in that area, and view anyone from the outside as being foreign. The concept and belief in nationality is also relatively new, and beyond ethnic differences, cultural differences were seen as being huge in determining how foreign someone was. The point being with a few exceptions, very few, homogeneous societies were extremely popular and commonplace. To the extent that "from the start of time" assimilation of foreign (that could be foreign as 20 miles away) was the norm.. the expectation was that others would conform to the local culture or F off (or be killed off in many situations).
The rest of your claims are just as badly thought out. You've skipped over history and basic logic. Still, do come back and defend your claims.
That has got to be some of the biggest load of bullshyte I have seen in a while.
Canada, the Freaking US had church child abuse FFS.
The country where you had Irish, Polish, Italian, Hispanic members of the catholic church not just some ould ones from a rural Irish parish.
And as for the banks??
Are you totally pulling the p* now.
Homogeneous societies have been some the safest societies in human history. This hasn't been a rule from that start, or even a belief by some. It's a very modern view that diversity improves things, so I'm going to have to call bullshit on this being some piece of wisdom that the people of the past all believed in. I honestly think you've just made that up on the spot.
There is no proof of what you said. At all.
From the start of time this has always been the rule for a healthy society. Make it homogenous and you will make it dangerous, violent and unhealthy. Ireland, child abuse, alcoholism, church impunity, lack of accountability. Make the society more diverse and there are less sheep to follow the lines we used to follow, like the banks are in good shape or the priests are holy and would never touch a child.
A common trait as you get older you tend to remember the distant past and forget recent events .
IMHO there's a strong case to be made that technology has made everyone's memory (my own included) far less capable. I'm constantly amazed at the detail of the memories that my parents have going back to the 40s/50s... whereas I have friends who struggle to remember much of anything except for what's directly related to their work.
You must have a great memory .Yes internet ,more TV channels more low paid jobs ,higher rents rising housing costs ,more scams ,fgm ,more welfare fraud ,fake asylum seekers ,higher crime and rapes ,boom and bust cycles .
France doesnt need to export.. they will head to UK..its easier for all concerned(except the English). also it takes at least 6 months to even register your case for international protection in France. Italy loved giving amnesty to illegals...they would take their new papers and travel freely to the northern welfare states
they know that France will export them back in a heartbeat, that's why.
I suspect they’re also tempted to sample the samosas and pakoras.
They want to learn English.
We might as well change the constitution in the name of accuracy: "The constitution asserts the "inalienable, indefeasible, and sovereign right" of the Irish people NGO to self-determination (Article 1). The state is declared to be "sovereign, independent, [and] democratic" (Article 5)"
Yeah RTE Six one news had pieces on refugees from Afghanistan a few times this week with someone from an Irish NGO wanting flexibility shown on validating ID and family reunification for the refugees as said it was difficult for them to get official documents due to the situation there!
Don't worry the media have not let migrants stories go.
Far from it.
This morning we were greeted to interview with local fire chief/police chief in Mexico talking about the truck crash that killed over 50 migrants.
Was great to try decipher translator over dub the spanish speaking Mexican on the radio.
A real WTF moment.
Would they have done as much if it was just 50 odd unlucky Mexican natives I wonder.
Then just checked RTE website and hey presto on News section they have 3 articles about Afghans in Ireland.
Must keep reminding us.
No, the question is "why do they have to risk their lives?". ie. it should be made easier and safer for them to do so. (not that they should follow established and legal ways of doing so)
Few people really care why migration is happening. They already know about the Syrian war, climate change in Africa, civil wars and genocides.... and few really care, because nothing will stop it from happening. It comes back to your comment about short attention spans. By making it easier for migrants to enter the UK or Europe, then, people don't need to think about the problem at all.
The question is now coming up in the media asking why are migrants risking their lives travelling from a safe EU country to the UK.
I don't agree. The narrative shifted only because the Belarus crisis was politically driven, in that there were governments behind the push of migrants. When it comes to mainstream refugees, and other migrant groups, the media, and governments will continue the previous attitude. The issues with migrants crossing the Channel from France to Britain reinforces this, since the focus remains firmly away from their illegal status, but rather on the perception of them being victims, and deserving of help. With Britain being the bad guy for not helping out and accepting them.
But yes, people do have very short attention spans, and you can be sure that governments or NGOs will take advantage of that.
The narrative has shifted as the Belarus border conflict has shown. The migrants are being filmed attacking border guards (previously not shown in the mainstream media) and reported as being infiltrated by extremists. Support has massively reduced and the spotlight is on the climate crisis. It just shows the short attention span people have these days.
Haha.. Yeah. I was a kind/teen in the 80s, although I have pretty clear memories of the time.
It certainly wasn't a wasteland. Economically, the policies of past governments were finally starting to bear fruit, along with the abolishing of practices which were incredibly unfair, like the attitude to women in the workplace. However, it was nothing like the remainder of Europe, like Belgium or France. I'd say it makes sense to compare Ireland to Portugal, in a way. Similar economies. Socially, though, it was a bit of a wasteland unless you loved the pub scene, were religious, or sporty. Wasn't much else going on. Ireland has changed massively over the last 40 years.
These arguments always make me smile.
According to some people, Ireland was a wasteland pre-90s with no jobs, no facilities etc.
However, talk about lowering the pension or putting CPOs on houses that are too big for the elderly and we're told they worked their whole lives and built this country into what it is.
Which is it? Because it definitely can't be both.
In the eighties obviously before your time .
Considering we don't even know how many people legally live in this country, then there is no way we know how many are actually here illegally.
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