Certainly different. MLMD didn't shoot anyone, neither did MM.
MLMD didn't turn a blind eye to selling babies, neither did MM.
They are both associated with organisations one could argue played a part, historically.
But this is current affairs right?
So the IRA weren't violent?
Maybe the IRA being before 2018 is too far back for you?
Natural causes with some social factors contributing, different to some SF-IRA kangaroo court ordering a shot to the back of the head and burial in a bog.
The Greens will go into government with anyone who will implement their policies. They also will benefit from an election campaign where real issues such as climate change come to the fore.
What nonsense you spin.
Equating horrific acts of violence in that way is nauseating.
Not at all, with those numbers, I expect the next government to be a coalition of FF and SF under a new FF leader. The only question for a new FF leader would be whether they would accept rotating Taoiseach with FG or permanent deputy to Mary-Lou.
The point I am making is a different one. With all that they have had to cope with in terms of the pandemic, it is remarkable that the poll figures would still see this government re-elected if an election was held tomorrow. Sinn Fein have only made small inroads into the government vote, they have been better at cannabilising the rest of the opposition. That poll serves up more worries for the SDs, Labour and PBP than for the government.
Unless you were an unmarried mother or born to one or have cervical cancer or are left in a hospital corridor on a seat or trolley.
No. That was a yarn people spun and gets repeated even though its known to be false. Also the issue with Christmas was the allowing of exceeding NPHET recommended levels of socialising.
Are you absolutely confident FF would put FG back in rather than do a deal with SF?
FG will probably go into the next general election as the only party absolutely ruling out going into government with SF. FF, if they were to go into government with a dominant SF would mean disaster for them but they might do it 'for the sake of the country'. Alternatively FF might agree to abstain on crucial votes and allow a SF + others type of minority government for a couple of years.
I'd see a SF/FF government as the most likely outcome from those numbers myself.
FF/FG/Greens combine for 80 seats in that projection. Adding Labour to get a majority government....I don't see it. Given that the Greens look likely to take a serious election hit after sitting in the kiddies seats in government and the damage done to Labour the last time they did so, FF/FG might have serious trouble persuading either, let alone both.
It must be noted that FG, despite all the brouhaha around Leo are looking positively Mark Twain-esque; "reports of my death are greatly exaggerated".
This is the key point. At nearly every turn, the Sinn Fein position would have killed more people from the pandemic than the government one.
Those numbers see the current Government re-elected. No change. Add a few independents and/or Labour for solidity.
Smaller parties are cannabilised by Sinn Fein in that projection.
Sf are quite happy just to collect the wedge and oppose everything.Nice little earner.
Rattle a few sabres about a UI, find a few ‘commemorations’ to air out the white shirts and clear the spit from the bagpipes.
Responsibilities!!!
Nah mate , we’re fine here…..now jog on…..
SF won't be getting 76 seats. Even at the current poll numbers, SF top out at about 60 seats, leaving them 20+ seats short of a government.
There are many constituencies now where there is a rock-solid Indo or two holding the fort.
To get to 65 seats, SF will need one TD in all constituencies and two TD's in 27 constituencies. I just can't see that happening.
If they're on 35%+ of FPV. FG won 76 seats in 2011 on the back of a 36% vote share.
Didn't SF and Mary Loy welcome the reopening of pubs and the like?
Didn't she say that people wanted and deserve a meaningful Christmas?
65 seats at a bare minimum?
If all the stars aligned and they outperformed even their best expectations they will get 65 seats but at the current polls, they are looking at closer to 55-60 seats. They will need other partners to bring them to the 80+ seats....
65 seats, I can't see it happening.
Eoin Ó Broin adding to the impression that the party is becoming a new Stickies vehicle.
It will end the same way, no long-term relevance bar to rarefied ideologues.
Ah now, no need to throw the baby out with the bath water.
Like your post, I’m afraid.
You are trying too hard, buddy.
So there's welfare cheats that bother you something awful. So stick with the status quo, because, welfare cheats.
Doesn't make a lick a sense. No sense at all mo chara.
You can point to SF policy on nobody having to work and free money?
Seems there's little stuffin' in your quilt there.
Middle Ireland have spoke. They won't wear more of the same. Indeed not.
You can’t handle the truth Bag, and as you imply ,from what I understand , that you don’t have a problem with welfare cheats, I’m not at all surprised.
Well you seem to be happy with the very cheats you have. Each to their own mo chara.
lolol you might think you typed out something different to what you really typed out bendar , were in the post i quoted did you make any reference , any reference at all to " pickets " ???
The empty vessels who make the most noise and who ‘take to the streets after placarding up’ at the drop of a hat.
nothing at all about " pickets " bendar , but i did manage to get you a pic of leo , " placarded up " and " had taken to the streets " pretty lame attempt at moving the posts , have another shot at it pal !!! 🤣
So we ignore welfare cheats then, is that what you are implying?
Very very strange, I have to say.
I think you missed this:
If welfare cheats are such a problem, why on earth would you want things to continue as is?
We've bigger problems IMO.
Are you suggesting SF would sort out everything?
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Not surprised you might have missed this. Eight stories down on the RTE website;
Survivors and relatives of those murdered in the Miami Showband massacre are to receive nearly £1.5m (€1.75m) in total damages to settle claims over suspected collusion with the loyalist terrorist murderers.
The resolutions reached in their legal actions against the Ministry of Defence and the Police Service of Northern Ireland were announced at the High Court in Belfast.
Powerful victim impact statements were also given by the wounded band members and those bereaved in the atrocity.
There should be more attention given to victims.
Ah blanch - "opening up pubs etc", i.e. the free for all last Xmas (but you knew that but couldn't resist a deflection attempt)
As I said refer to last year's discussion, no point going in circles. The most criminal thing is that so many of the failures were predicted by actual experts at the time and ignored by the government yet people still use the "nobody saw it coming" excuse
Exhibit A last November: Covid-19: we're about to make a terrible mistake
Exhibit B: before schools reopened
Re masks wearing: rather than admit a failure of procurement the government questioned their efficacy and waited til August 2020 to make wearing mandatory
Tbh - this probably belongs more on the govt thread, its been a tangent from a SF thread
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