This will be interesting
I know the rumble strips and its not them, happens further out on the normal road, a small bit past the Galway side of Oranmore exit
Do you know exactly from google maps where the shuddering began? The most obvious cause is the rumble strips as you approach the roundabout, they can be a lot bigger on some roads. These however are only a few hundred meres from the roundabout.
Car was expressing severe disgust at being dragged into Galway
hi.
not a traffic issue as such, bit of a weird one.
In regard to the M6 motorway approaching Galway from Oranmore……just after the Oranmore exit.
Was driving to Galway and had slowed down to 100kph after the Oranmore exit etc and after a few hundred metres noticed a change in the car, like it had a flat, car kinda shuddered a bit. Got out and checked and all ok. No obvious signs. Drove in around city and home again on Motorway and all ok.
herself drove in to Galway again today and had the Exact same experience on the exact same patch of road.
not sure if it’s a car issue yet.
has anything happened with the surface of the road around this area that would potentially cause this bumpy/weird experience?
You're referring to the bypass/ring road, correct? It will make some wealthy connected individuals, who have accumulated land banks around the proposed route, even more wealthy than the currently are while leaving the masses sitting in even worse traffic than they are now. So, yes, supporting it is daft if you are not one of those chosen few.
Stupid parking everywhere discommoding all, drivers wandering around looking for parking spaces, the usual. They could have stated that people should take the park n ride service, that gardai would be enforcing junctions. clearways, footpaths, etc.
They more or less gave advance notice that they know the problems will occur
Is the issue not just the large volume of cars expected? What traffic laws could they enforce stricter to ease that?
We can't be bothered to enforce traffic laws on a Sunday, so deal with it https://connachttribune.ie/gardai-warn-of-possible-delays-to-traffic-in-city-tomorrow/
Always find it bizarre that any well meaning and articulated opposition to the ring road is repeatedly met by this "monorail" reference.
Who seems more like Lyle Lanley with the silver bullet solution...
A. Those that are referencing national and internation learnings and highlighting findings from the actual ring road reports.
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B.
Yes the decision to build and budget to do so are separate to planning permission.
Getting cabinet approval is next and isn't automatic, especially given various climate commitments.
Interesting quote from that - "this is a decision to approve the design, not to build it". That true?
I'd say the consultants have thrown anyone they can on this now to drawn down the design budget while they can.
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That's what they said about the last one
There's a load of potential pitfalls for this road yet. It is by no means, a done deal
It will be built.
It's that time of the year
Kids in Renmore should be going to GCC, the new Educate Together secondary, Merlin college, even Calastansis (spelled better!) in preference to a school on the other side of the river.
Most children live in suburbs. That is where most schools should be, too.
You might want to look at the plans yourself, this is planned and designated as a motorway, in the same way as the M50. It won't have a 120km limit, but it will be, in name and legislation, classed as a motorway. The section to Barna is classed as a protected road which basically means all the same development limitations are the same, only the physical make up of the road is changed
mortorway to barna, lolz
get off your green knickers and check the plans.
This decision is beyond depressing. It's upsetting to consider the permanent destruction to that hinterland. A motorway to Barna through An Dangan!!
The timing of this decision is particularly depressing in the weeks following Glasgow. It seems we are locked in here.
We will continue to be a car-oriented society. Cars = roads = cars. Each generation will demand their bungalow in the countryside with low commute times for their 3 household vehicles. Who cares what the long-term consequences are?
It's competely hopeless. We are a global backwater when it comes to clever spatial planning. This is population planning straight from the 1950's.
I'd counter that all the "pro-ring road brigade" live in a fantasy land dictated by their feelings. I'd have no problem with the road being built if it looked like it would help but all the research, modeling and predictions make it look like it won't. The only counter points I've seen are emotive posts about how things are "obvious" and some mythical green agenda. Most people haven't even read any of the engineer reports but still insist they just know.
I don't understand your logic with the kids (unless everything is happening off peak I guess). If the bus was to get you there in half the time would you not pick it? The only way I can think that the ring road would help is if you're two locations are around Dangan and Menlo.
A public transport solution could happen before a first sod would ever be turned on the new road. It just needs to political will and council executive drive.
There are very few physical changes needed. Where we have 2 lanes of traffic each way, dedicate one to public transport. Where we have 1 lane each way, use one-way systems to free up a lane. Then review the available routes and plan a wide network.
There would obviously be public consultation delays but that's true to any changes these days.
"Tell me how a family with 2 kids living in an estate can make public transportation possible, when schools and childcare are located miles away from each other with different school starting/finishing times to factor in as well. "
- it's a recent thing that parents have to hover over their kids right to the school gate, never happened when I was in school
- check out the expanding cycle buses, huge success
- school buses that do a loop of the catchment area and you have a safe public transport option and give kids some independence
- as public transport options bed in, services (child care etc) will grow along the routes and encourage the 15 minute city. Communities and small businesses don't grow when people enter a car in the work car park and step out on their driveway.
Why the road will never be built
This was illuminating too, note, this was only a few years after the current bypass was opened
Theres a perfectly good empty school building behind them that could be utilised,also under used playing pitches 200ydrs away in st Marys, this is more about NUIG having control of nuns island,would,nt suprise me if NUIG wanted gated access only to the area.
It seems like the anti-ring road brigade live in some sort of a cuckoo land thinking that public transport and cycling as a valid alternative to commute in Galway in the near future. There is no escaping from reliance on cars in Ireland within the next millennium at least. If this was to be ever achieved, it would require a seismic shift in people’s habits and planning developments across our city.
Those who are actively opposing the ring road do not seem to have people’s daily lives and struggles on their agenda by the look of things. All the assumptions for the non-driving alternatives seems to also be focusing on single individuals with abundance of time to spare. Do Green Party or An Taisce do not base their modelling or research around young families? Tell me how a family with 2 kids living in an estate can make public transportation possible, when schools and childcare are located miles away from each other with different school starting/finishing times to factor in as well.
Another major factor that nobody is mentioning here in terms of alternative traveling solutions for Galway is that we do not live-in sunny California and Galway on average gets 230+ days of rain per year and travel distances from housing developments to IDA/workplaces is way too far for an average person to commit to on daily or weekly bases. I've commuted from Knocknacarra to Parkmore on a bike over the years and believe me facing 30km/h winds, rain and unpredictable drivers is not for the faint hearted.
Ring road is a necessity for a lot of folks out there, until planning authorities start creating mix developments not just 1,000s of housing units with no services around it. We can debate mono rail, cycling or bus transport, but we need solutions NOW, not in 10 or 20 years.
How could this possibly cost so much? Reminds me of the children's hospital fiasco. I assume a proper cost analysis for the entire project will be done before this is given funding, or is this going to be tolled?
My guess is there is going to be at least 3 if not 4,challenges to this approval
Sure you'd buy 1,500 fully electric buses for that. You could have the whole city population seated on a bus and moving at the one time. Obviously stupid money but that's where the ring road project is going...
€1,000,000,000!
Surely it would be cheaper to dam Lough Corrib and divert outflow to Screeb or Kilary
1/3 of the cost.... is this the costing of the ring road was costed 6-7 years ago? €600,000,000.
What is it at current prices and future +5 yr, have heard from pro-ring road politicians like Noel Grealish saying more like €1,000,000,000.
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