It's all falling apart alarmingly fast for Boris Johnson across the water. How long you reckon he has left as British Prime Minister? Hours surely?
How many parties are they talking about now? I've lost count.
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If you have no morals you can survive anything, so he'll be fine, as he doesn't give a fck
There was a time a few decades ago when a UK politicians were very quick to resign if there was any hint of scandal.
Whereas here they would get all sorts of backing from party members and the party leader and it was only when more and more came out that they would step aside.
Now it seems the other way round
Mr Lowry is a perfect example of that....
The big difference with Irish politics, is that members from all parties would be at the party
Merriongate was a complete mess where people involved at least claim to have believed there was nothing wrong. I can't remember the restrictions that were in place at the time to be honest but I know the government 'clarified' this later.
Golfgate I don't know what point you're making? The only government minister there resigned after it broke and the EU Commissioner resigned as well.
Both events are completely different to a party of 40 or 50 people being held at the Prime Minister's residence during a full lockdown, which wasn't in place when Merriongate or Golfgate happened.
the Prime minister's residence is a flat on the third floor of No11.
The Party that is claimed to have happened, was not attended by any ministers or MPs, just members of staff who worked within the offices of Downing street.
If we want to place bets on an outside successor to Johnson, Rees-Mogg might be just awful enough to reach the latter stages of a leadership contest. Rees-Mogg would be Johnson 2.0 I think, he is pretty influential within the party through his role in the ERG
He's never been given a ministerial role of any note, so if he has any ambition to do anything other than sneer from the sidelines, he might put himself forward in a leadership race or back someone of his ilk, like Michael Gove
If Priti Patel or Michael Gove get anywhere near Number 10, then it would be a very very dark time ahead for the UK, not sure which of those 2 I despise more, but Patel does seem less shy about exposing her nasty side.
Probably not.
Boris Johnson has managed to get away with his terrible handling of the COVID pandemic so this won't make much of a difference.
Unless the UK gets a competent opposition party (frankly the SNP would be the best opposition if they ever ran for seats in England) nothing will change.
You're comparing events that were attended by some politicians in a private capacity, which happened during Summer when infection rates were very low and restrictions were loose and there were enough grey areas for attendees to reasonably claim they didn't know guidelines were not followed, with a party organised and held right in the seat of power at the height of a full winter lockdown in a country that had been suffering death numbers far in excess of anything Ireland had experienced.
And in the case of the Irish events people were held to account and some lost their jobs, while we've seen nothing but lying and scapegoating in Westminster.
ignoring your inaccuracies, my original point that members of all parties would be at the party still stands right?
nd err, no one from any government parties were really held to account, as usual.
He is well holed below water and while it may not end him, it does mark the beginning of the end.
He'll be lucky to last 12 months.
Patel will appeal to working class communities with a lot of her views to date but needs to deliver in them, as ever the over leaning towards free market dogmatism is a threat.
Sunak is probably hard to beat and has it sown up.
The next mess by Johnson is quickly approaching, whatever it is.
How do you know who attended ?
if any ministers or MPs had attendedm the Mirror would have splashed their name all over the front page.by now
You assume.
Also there was no party but I'm sure MPs were not at the party that never happened. You are so whipped you will just repeat everything they say ad nauseam
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what the not so subtle reference is.
very dark time ahead. I presume...
If Mr and Mrs Johnson come walking down Downing St tomorrow with the new baby in a pram then he’s back in the game!
Seriously. If he ends up resigning then it’s a straight fight between Sunak and Patel with Sunak the easy winner. Patel hasn’t had enough success stopping the dingies from leaving Dunkirk. She’s not likeable either. Boris is still there long after he should have been gone because, like it or not, he’s impossible to hate…unless you’re a deranged Corbynite.
Ah for **** sake. Pure nonsense.
I didn't realise Michael Gove was of Asian heritage as well or maybe Danzy just ignored him just to try and get a dig at Akrasia to try and make it look like a racist remark although that would be unbelievably stupid if that was the case.
From an Irish perspective Sunak is probably the best of a bad lot of Tories. Patel has form in threatening to block food to Ireland, Gove is a nasty piece of work with a dislike of the GFA.
I think Gove is incredibly sinister. Johnson is just a big man child in comparison who seems to have decided it would be a jolly good wheeze to be PM.
Gove involved himself in the controversy about Kingspan’s sponsorship of Mercedes. And when you look into it Kingspan are not to blame for the Grenfell fire. I can’t help but think it’s because Kingspan is an Irish company that he decided to raise the issue. More of an opportunistic attack on an Irish company as revenge for irelands stance on the Protocol.
Absolutely not. And don't you dare accuse me of that.
What are you on about? I've never posted anything even mildly racist. If anything my biggest objection to Patel is that I think she would go way too far with her already heartless anti immigration policies.
I thought kingspan had falsified some safety certificates which allowed them to be used as insulation on high rise buildings
Ahh come on, own your opinions, or past ones maybe.
Regardless of it, we'll get back on track.
Either you retract those accusations or post evidence of them
Hit and run character assassination is not on
You are way off the mark there.
Kingspan are up to their eyes in sh1t.
They didn't design the insulating or cladding system for the tower or know that their insulation was going into it BUT they produced the product that was deemed suitable for installation on the tower based on its certification. Certification that Kingspan knew wasn't right but basically were laughing about passing the product off as something it was not.
Mercedes dropped them fairly rapid too.
Only 5% of the insulation used in the tower was kingspan so who made the other 95%? Why are they not being named and shamed?
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