The school have been pushing for that move since at least the 90s. They announced it was happening long before even discussing it with the university.
It was a weird one
Very hard to see how funding can be given when we still cant get the M20 built between the 2nd and 3rd largest cities. This bypass is a third of the cost of the M20 and only 18km in length. Crazy.
Surely if they put that much money into a light rail or a hybrid of alternative options it would benifit more people?
We need kids to live in the city if we want the city to grow ! reducing the school options within the city seems wrong to me. I'm well aware at how confined the bish is for space, but it seems inherently wrong that NUIG was allowed to muscle them out. The bish attracted pupils from all over the city and its suburbs, its new location will make it very hard to access for pupils from renmore without jumping into a car.
Happens at every junction in the city, all day, everyday. The dog on the street could tell you that.
This project may still fail to get funding due to the very real climate concerns associated with it
https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/126268/momentous-appalling-galway-divided-over-ring-road-planning-permission
Is anyone surprised?
You be faster driving to athlone some days than travelling from east to west.
Another bridge is needed, bypass can't come quick enough.
Not many kids living in the city centre but those who do still have the Jes and Mary’s. Under 15 minutes to cycle to Taylor’s, Enda’s, Salerno and Moneenageisha too. Wouldn’t it be better to have the schools near where kids live? That way everyone, not just those in town, can potentially walk/cycle without the need to go through transport hubs (of course getting into your local secondary is a whole other problem…)
I don't see much hope for Ireland planning/producing any kind of sustainable, livable, healthy, affordable cities. It's not part of our culture. We have a fear or derision for any kind of communial urban living. I can't quite out my finger on it. Maybe it's due to us being a low population country and the city seen as somewhere where poor people or students have to live. We seem to be definitely closer to the US and not Europe in this respect.
Sure, 1 word, budget
Rebates? Paid for by? You're there already whingeing about supposed "greenie", "woke" taxes. Where do you think these magic rebates will come from, the money tree.
Yup this is the problem, the current strategy is doing very very little on this front. Reduce is the word, not restrict.
So this "Free up space" argument.... it just does not happen. Its not in the current strategy and looking at other regional Citys like Limerick and Waterford
it never happened for them either.
This is true again ARUP's own data shows this Induced demand effect. Many parts of the road network in Knocknacarra going to have much increased motorised traffic on them as a result.
the enviro wokes want to close down the city altogether without building a bypass and reaching some sort of solution
Actually multiple alternative solutions have been listed, all of which would offer more sustainable transit into, through and around the city, cost less, be more environmentally sound, safer, efficient, healthier and provide greater economic benefit. They would also provide the above benefits far, far longer than anything that would come from the road proposal.
For example, 5 Park & Strides located on the major arteries into the city, with bus & bike infrastructure and high frequency bus routes would entice a lot of folks out of driving into the city. Obviously would not suit everyone, but then no mode of transport does suit everyone, but it would work for a heck of a lot of people.
Congratulations, you've just closed half the BnB accommodation in the city.
But at least you realised that residents should be allowed vehicle access. Shame we cannot have visitors though, or tradespeople to fix broken stuff in our houses.
And the best bit - you solved almost none of the city's really transport problems.
I totally disagree.
Schools should be in suburbs where kids live, not the centre where hardly any kids live.
The Bish will be moving as the Uni have plans for a full takeover of Nuns Island. They've been buying it up for the last 20 years. From the Bish side, the move would make sense as they get the new site for free, room for expansion and full access to all of the Uni's sports facilities. As it is now, its totally hemmed in with zero facilities onsite
I think the bish needs to stay where it is, we need to be able to make secondary schools work in the city close to transport hubs. If you live in the city center, i think its fair to think that your kids should be able to walk/cycle to a secondary school.
I'm sure the Galway shipping centre and Galway Retail park would love that idea. How would someone buying, for example, heavy goods from Currys, Woodies, Smyth's etc get them.
Again, nice idea, but that does not form a part of any current plans. In fact current plans are EXTREMELY limited in ambition so as NOT to reduce access of the private car to the city center
If the radial PT exists, why need the bypass?
You are trying to justify the existence of the bypass by saying people living within it can use PT instead lol
and we would still have the same traffic problems in knocknacarra, westside, nuig, terryland and renmore?
What boundary would you apply to that?
Did anyone suggest not building a ring road (it's not a bypass) with bridge and do nothing else?
You're still mixing up environmentalists with those interested in resolving traffic congestion with future-proofed solutions.
I agree with what you’ve said in this post in general but I don’t get the point about moving the Bish. Do you think it’s better to keep it in town or move it elsewhere? Seems to me that having so many of the secondary schools in town doesn’t work anymore.
Good post - shows lots of demands for money spending in the City to bring other infrastructure up to spec. I think your point 4 is worth examining because you hear it alot at the minute. The ring road will "free up space" in the City Center. Don't see it happening. Its been used as a carrot. Take the two regional City's that got the bypass/ring road/tunnel. Waterford and Limerick. They never got that "freed up space" for other modes. Both have lower public transport i.e bus, cycling and walking numbers than Galway City currently has. ARUP 's own modelling shows (presented in the Oral hearing) Galway's numbers in these modes will not change significantly at all if the ring road is built.
The perfect time to do that is now. They said they'd do that after the previous ring road.
Ya that will be a big hurdle for this project to get over, it is very very expensive.
Imagine spending 1/4 of that just on upgrading the main national and regional roads in Connemara.
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