How so?
Disaster, sets Galway on track for an even bigger gridlock.
Well Thank God for that, though I'd say the greensc*m will fight it tooth & nail so it'll be ready for my unborn teen children to come on holidays to.
https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2021/1207/1265402-galway-road-project/
Great news. Just shows that the loudest voices don’t always get their way.
Ring Road approved, as per Connacht Tribune FB.
Active travel proposals for Clybaun Rd, Ballyloughane Rd & Renmore Ave slammed
doesn't need to be 80,
60/70 would be acceptable - 50 is a joke
True, I know the Head in the council has a gra for rasing that to 80k but in reality it will never happen. If anything they'll put limiting tech or infrastructure on there to slow down the speeders
And appeal if they are too low....
Bothar na treabh comes to mind.
It's now possible to appeal against current speed limits if you feel they are too high.
A rehash of some of the things I posted a while back coming out of the Demand Management Study for the 5 cities
I never heard the term ‘rat run’ used to describe pedestrians and cyclists before. How ridiculous! My estate has several pedestrian/cyclist entrances and they make life so much easier. And they are regularly used by people from other estates, including school children.
I’m familiar with a private estate on the west side of the city that has blocked up all pedestrians and cyclist access bar the main road and it is a total pain for the residents, when they wish to go for a walk. The goal there was to keep local teenagers out.
I agree that some laneways are unpleasant to use at night time when narrow and poorly lit. But the idea that having ‘outsiders’ walk through the estate will increase anti social behaviour is misplaced. The evidence is that the more through traffic of people an area has, the less likely people are to get up to no good. After all, if you were going to do something you didn’t want other people to see, you wouldn’t do it in a busy area. Perhaps the solution is to plan the laneways better? If they’re wide, reasonably short, straight, and with lit there’s good visibility at all times of day.
FYI - This estate is in Rahoon, Knocknacarra is about 1 km West of here.
Re people wandering. People walk and cycle through my estate from our neighboring estates and further afield all the time, great to see people out and about on foot and bike. Good way to interact with your neighbors (and visitors as well) as this shorter trip distances make car journeys much longer in comparison so people do reduce the traffic congestion by leaving the car in the driveway. Have been attending residents association for over a decade now - speeding of motor vehicles(Delivery drivers.....) and dog fouling are nearly always a topic of concern. Today's teenagers and youngsters behaviors around here are certainly not the problem, if anything they spend too much time indoors.
Perhaps at the time it was built by the Developer, its in the Control of the Council now though for many years.
If residents want to access a quicker more pleasant way of getting to local sports facilities, school, bus stops and shops then they would be happy with this.
I live in an estate with 6 different pedestrian and cycling access points and one road - makes life a way lot easier as a resident.
From the look of that, I'd guess the issue is insurance: the estate management company want to avoid the risk of injury claims from people being injured in the lane adjoining their property. The best way to do that is to have a hard barrier, so you cannot just dopely wander out from the footpath to the (I assume) shared pathway.
Now - I don't know much about Knocknacarra at all. But that's what the photo makes me think.
Residents will likely also want to discourage people who have no business there from wandering in the estate.
That is true, one can see that for Millars Lane - many of the walled sections have been raised up from the original. The wall section at Gort Greine for example should be lowered or maybe even removed altogether. This section here: https://goo.gl/maps/bG4N3FpX5X21Kh8R7 - it is daft really that one has to EXIT Gort Greine to use Millars Lane.(Again youngsters or foot can easily jump the walls) Hopefully they will include 2/3 access points to the estate from it during the redo.
Having said that lanes or boreens that developed naturally are much more attractive than dark lanes with six foot block walls they do need thought.
Dark lanes with six foot block walls need bulldozers, or gates. No thought required.
But some naturally developed ones are also very poor, they may start out OK, but plant growth over time can make them dangerous.
I think the design of Millars Lane is going to be critical here.
If they do it right, clean, tidy, well lit, well maintained etc, it will be a success and other parts of the city will look for it to be replicated.
If its dark and dingy, with hidden corners and dark spots, dirty, not maintained etc it'll be a failure.
There are plenty of lanes in the oldest parts of Galway and boreens in the country, permeability was important when you had to walk everywhere.
The development of estates created the closed in model that assumes cars were the priority.
There is nearby, its a very weird one.
Fuchsia Park in Renmore.
Probably the simplest one to rectify, the blocks look like they were put on the road itself for this wall if I recall the location correctly.
Love to know the history on it.
This is not an Irish psyche thing. It is nothing to do with villages, this is a North American urban import from the 1990's onwards in Galway City.
Did you ever stop to think that these objections are based on observations of what really happens in things like this.
Laneways are one of the dumbest design ideas even. Even straight ones, eg from Renmore church to the Dublin Rd - I never feel comfortable using it, even in broad daylight.
Like it or not, villages are part of the Irish psyche. People want to live in their small closed area, not to open it up to the city.
I did not realise they tried to stop Renmore rat-running years ago, by erecting a barrier, which was ignored https://www.advertiser.ie/galway/article/49330/renmore-one-way-system-to-be-scrapped-says-crowe
The residents said they were worried that this could increase anti-social behaviour and led to their estate being used as a rat run by cyclists and pedestrians. https://www.galwaydaily.com/news/plans-for-74-new-homes-in-kingston/
There is an issue with the laneway – it is a curved alleyway so that leads to anti-social behaviour. https://connachttribune.ie/residents-want-problem-laneway-to-be-closed-off-221/
There are more such objections all over the town
For anyone interested, the NTA have a guidance document regarding permeability. Shows clearly how small changes can have big impacts
3 perfect examples!
Another great one is Gleann Na Ri Gleann Rua on the East of the city. Turns an 800m 10 min walk into a 1.5km 20 min walk. When I lived there many years ago, the students each year in Gleann Na Ri used to knock a portion of the wall, or stack crates/blocks etc
The ones that really annoy me are the "side by side" estates!
There is a classic one in Clybaun.
No back alleys here.
Cartur Mór --1--> Slí na Sruthán
Slí na Sruthán --2--> Caiseal Úr
Slí na Sruthán --3--> Hawthorn Place
1 = https://goo.gl/maps/1XVPysjMjwXEDqiu9
and
2 = https://goo.gl/maps/dgsAvpwdmvJRcCLX9
3 = https://goo.gl/maps/PfvPhFdLYiXuaVP69#
Take out 3 walls within Slí na Sruthán and you create a great walking and cycling neighborhood in Clybaun.
Also provides shorter distances to avail of public transport corridors.
The physical cost of this is tiny really - the time and energy is engaging with the local community to show them the benefits of this.
Ya perceived is the word, not actual observed in reality. I observe for more anti social motor driving in my estate, next is dog fouling. Its a daily occurrence. Agree with VanWildcard - the video is poor on that point. The mitigation is getting more " passive surveillance " with greater usage from all age groups. Cllr says the same in the thread that follows. As somebody who uses Millars Lane a good bit, that section behind the Cllr - can see the concrete on the upper section has been smoothed from wear and tear of teenagers and fit young people been able to climb over it for decades.
It's to do with perceived value of an asset (house). Hence, you get people like Cllr McNelis demanding they close off pedestrian access at Whiteoaks->school due to "anti-social behaviour", or as he elaborated on local radio "people pay good money for their houses".
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