There's always a cinema that never materialises... Great to see something happening here eventually but I'm betting the residential and hospital get watered down. Pity about R&H but it would take a charity case to try and do something with that.
Are Goulding's included in that 30-something acre land bank? Eyeballing a map the area north of centre Park road doesn't look that big alone.
Tomorrow's Examiner front page
Echo front page
The 2k homes are indeed in future phases. That article mentions 160 apartments in Phase 1, of which 80 will be build to sell.
They seem to have prelet the hospital which means that should be a definite yes for development
O'Callaghan Properties announcing Phase 1 of the docklands redevelopment. Already looks very promising. The one quibble would be the relative lack of apartments. They mention about 450,000 sq. feet of offices (so about 4,000 workers) but the article mentions 160 apartments. The "2,000 homes" in the title, I'm not sure of. Might be in future phases?
OCP going in for planning this week for Phase 1 of the South Docks development. 450,000sqft of office space and apartment blocks also
Odlums building being retained and upgraded. R&H Hall to be demolished for reasons in the article.
Are the major tax breaks still in place ? Or are they long gone ?
Student accommodation is typically 6 small ensuite bedrooms with one shared kitchen / living room and are easier to fit into the footprint of a building as they only need one entrance door, its alot of extra income compared to one or two bed apts and you can clearly see that with the amount of them going up around Cork!
They will be viable because if they can’t rent to students because they are to expensive they will turn them into Air BnB
Student apartments are typically a lot smaller; so more units, so more income for a given site.
Who rents them though ? , And if it can be made viable to build student apartments how come it can't be made viable to build regular apartments ?
Yaay for unaffordable student apartments.
I think you are spot on there, condition of planning that they had to have extra commerial units. Know someone that contacted the auctioneer re the other vacant unit and got the run around. This was the plan all along I reckon
Almost definitely not a ruse. As was mentioned above, there was a coffee shop tenant lined up that was hiring. However, it seems that fell through
Cynically I wonder if the café units were a ruse to get it through planning. The first Lidl plan got shut down for not being mixed use IIRC.
I always thought it was strange they didn't leave room for a bakery.
I didn't realise the Douglas Relief Road had been renamed :)
Frome The Echo today:
Seems to have been some issues around the cafe in the front. It was pre let and advertising for staff and then all of a sudden it was advertising for tenants again. They may be expanding into that space as a result.
Is it true the new Aldi in Douglas is already looking to expand?
I don't think that it ever started? One of many apartment developments that is being sat on
Loathe to take this further off topic, and yes, booze is a disaster, especially the homemade stuff around, but my impression is that drunks often have something else in their system these days, especially if aggressive. And general scumbags… potentially also linked to substances, getting money for it, broken people from being abused by other users etc. Heroin and injecting is a fragment of the problem. Some take any pill they are offered when low. Or at least, that’s how it comes across in the court reports defence arguments… I can’t remember the last time I read one where it was only booze in the defendant’s system.
Has anyone any info on that glenveagh housing development by the Ursulines? Walked past it the other day and saw very little activity. Is it on hold?
seem to be some work in the prism site this morning. would great to see that get property going.
To be honest, I'm far more wary of drunks and general scumbags. While, seeing people using hard drugs on the streets isn't pleasant, I've never had hassle from these people. I'm not saying that no one has suffered at the hands of addicts but my experience has been different. In my experience, most of them are pretty harmless and they are usually too out of it to pose any threat.
And injection center on Spike might be more appealing to our peaceful citizens than city center.
It's brutal to be an addict, but it's no fun getting mugged or assaulted by someone off their face either.
So why not gate off all our residential streets so junkies can't use them?
That really is the logical conclusion to your statement.
From my experience, the same people who want free reign to lock these thoroughfares at will, seem to be vehemently again an injection centre in the area, too.
Fair enough i dont want to derail the thread saw a tiktok of some guy acting up by the clayton alright.Maybe we need a thread about the state of the city in general.
The gates don't stop the junkies.
I used to live on one of those alleys and I've since moved and I see more junkies where I am now than I ever did in the alleys in Shandon.
I used to get more afraid having to stop, take keys out, unlock the gate and hope no one was waiting behind me to try get in.
The only time I valued those gates was when there was a particular group camping outside St Mary's and one of the group had a tendency to become highly aggressive (he's still around - even saw a TikTok of him losing it on Oliver Plunkett Street). Two of my housemates were chased by him up to the gates. They were able to slam the gates and lock him out.
Better than junkies etc using the lanes.
That's the "locked gates" quarter.
It's crazy to think thar we've tried to create a tourist friendly, "historic quarter", yet we allow the residents in a few alleyways to close off public access as and when they see fit.
I've written to the council numerous times about this but nothing is done and residents continue to lock gates on public thoroughfares willy nilly.
