I for one do not believe he shot them people out of self defence and never meant to kill them. I think he intended to kill them and thought he would get away with it. The Judge as well is a joke. What a very strange trial. Only in America.
People went for the gun only after he shot and unarmed man ,there is no evidence he threatened rittenhouse none , what's the bad words got to anything ,
Another thing that was pointed out rittenhouse ran towards him in the video the first victim ,as shown in the videos he's casually walking and in the one video he's shown to start running in the direction ,he ran towards someone who he said was armed and made threats to kill him ...
A crazed man who was repeatedly shouting the naughty N word, screaming "get him" at a guy who had been attempting to put out fires that the lunatic and his cohorts were starting and was attempting to take the gun off the person who shot him?
He indeed seems like a victim. In the same sense that Jacob Blake was a "victim".
(I'm assuming victim now means "violent thugs who deserved what they got)
If it happened here or Britain, obviously he'd have gone down for what it is, a man going out looking to kill black people and killing them. He was committing a crime, all the rest (they ran at him, they happened to be bad people) would be completely irrelevant.
In the States, with their fondness for the right to bear arms and militia and standing your ground, he might beat it. He possibly even thought claiming he was defending a car dealer was a complete defence in the rust belt!
Although true, no legal analyst I am aware of who has looked at the charge in detail has found a way around the verbiage of the "this section (the one about under 18 with a dangerous weapon") does not apply in the case of a rifle" bit. An instruction which does not reflect this would be highly surprising.
I suspect the reason that the defense allowed the lesser charges was to allow double jeopardy to enter. One cannot be tried twice for the same offense in the US. By allowing the charges now in a case which has gone pretty well for the defense, it can prohibit a "retrial" on the lesser charges.
The fear is that a jury may decide "he needs to be found guilty of something", and go with the lesser charge even though, as far as I know, the self defense argument remains every bit as much as defense against any of them.
Yes a judge and jury
Not boards or wannabe proud boy or trumpets .
You all, all of you, need to drop CNN and Fox News from your schedule.
I think you will find the judge and Jury will disagree with your viewpoint in the end and justice will be served!
Or he's someone who shot 3 and killed two ,
But it's all the victims fault .
He's not a hero he was a wannabe thug with a gun nothing more , attack the victims past but it made no difference on the night ,they were shot and killed ,the treats to kill rittenhouse there is no evidence to show he was threatened by anyone that night
Several people who were there confirmed it was rittenhouse ,there has also been zero denials it was him ,no its fake news it didn't happen ,just silence and the hope it goes away,
I reckon going by the court discussions lesser charges and Provocation is going play a big part of the closing to the jury , seems the legals following seems to think the defence messed up by allowing it ,
Something that didn't gain a lot of notice was the someone was caught photographing and taking video of the jury boarding the bus to the court house
that has not been confirmed to be rittenhouse. It could be any boy of similar age and appearance. Your post is the perfect example of how Rittenhouse has the whole MSM, political campaigners against him. CAn you imagine President Higgins announcing to the public that the men charged with attacking Kevin Luney were IRA members before the trial, their would be uproar and a probable mistrial. But its ok for PResident Biden to call Rittenhouse a white supremacist with no evidence
He had been seen by both the defendent and other witnesses, armed with a chain leading up to the shootings. Its very reasonable for Rittenhouse to assume he still has the chain on him
But we seen the evidence of Rittenhouse attacking a teenage girl ,who was involved in an altercation with another girl , rittenhouse attacked and repeatedly punched the girls from behind .
He was not charged with burglary ,
His concealed carry permit had lasped this was all brought up ,
No he had the gun illegally because of burglary convictions ,
But he didn't have the chain at the time of the shooting ,and the only evidence of threatening to kill rittenhouse came from rittenhouse no video or audio exists of the threats ,
This was brought up this morning /last night when they were discussing closing and jury instructions
Imagine being so utterly obsessed with Kyle Rittenhouse being guilty that you attempt to downplay someone being convicted of raping multiple children.
Absolutely despicable.
It's shocking alright, that sort of "but his our Peado" didn't work out well for the Catholic church or any other group who did it.
Finding it hard to believe i just read that, incredible. Ted bundy was only convicted of 20 murders, not sure if he had any other previous offences. Unbelievable.
None of the 3 victims were burglars or convicted for burglaries .
On the stand, Gaige Grosskreutz testified that he was carrying the handgun in his possession illegally.
The reason he was carrying it illegally was because, him having been arrested and charged with felony burglary (which he admitted to police after they proved that he had sold the items he stole), his gun license was automatically suspended.
I don't know where you're getting your information from, but you are being grossly misinformed by it.
The residue and soot pattern on Rosenbaum's hand was—as explained in great detail by the pathologist (who was called by the prosecution) as pictures of the injuries were shown—indicative of a point-blank hit to the hand from the barrel.
Since the prosecution's expert witness swore to that on the stand, and since you don't seem to have any clue what actually happened on that night beyond being very certain that Rittenhouse is guilty of everything he's charged with and probably a bit more, I think it's probably safe to go with the pathologist's assessment of Rosenbaum's wounds.
But there is legal ambiguity around whether he was allowed to be in possession of the firearm, which the judge intends to address in jury instruction.
But was shot at around 4 foot from Rittenhouse
No. This is an incorrect statement. Rosenbaum was shot point blank as he was reaching for Rittenhouse's gun (video evidence, eye witness testimony and pathologist testimony).
It's Grosskreutz who was shot ~3 feet away from Rittenhouse (video evidence), after he aimed his pistol toward Rittenhouse's head (video evidence and Grosskreutz' own testimony).
You really ought to familiarise yourself with at least the more basic established facts in this case.
God bless him. I guess society let the poor man down.
Lol. Get a grip.
Seems like he was at the right protest (riot) though. This guy only raped 5 kids. He met thousands in his lifetime. You could say that in general, the majority of his interactions with kids were "mostly peaceful".
The skateboard was also weighted, ie deliberately converted from a sporting good to a weapon, kinda like driving large nails through the end of a baseball bat
He was armed with a chain. Seen swinging it earlier and Rittenhouse testified he had seen the chain also. So 4ft and heavy metal chain. One could argue Rittenhouse was slow to fire. Also other witnesses have identified the "victims" being involved in criminal actions such as property destruction and criminal threats to others
From the first time Rittenhouse was chased to the moment that he put his hands up for surrender was less than 3 minutes. Everything that happened was in less than 3 minutes.
You don't seem know the order of events. He'd just shot someone hitting him with a skateboard. Is someone using a skateboard as a weapon unarmed?
Also make your mind up, Which is it? ...have any them been ever charged with anything... Or ever done anything illegal.... were any of them armed.
Next you'll say what happened before doesn't matter because Rittenhouse didn't know any of that. Well they didn't know what happened before either. We still don't know for sure and we've umpteen camera angles and videos and witness accounts. None of which they had. Even with all that evidence you can't even get the order of events right. They had no clue either.
No, and it is theorized than amnesty from the weapons charges was the price of testimony. There is no argument (even in his own testimony) that he was unlawfully armed. An Operating Whilst Intoxicated charge from an incident the previous November was also dropped at the prosecutors request in January, a couple weeks after Rittenhouse's plea appearance.
His testimony on the stand was quite accurate. In order to possess the gun in Illinois where he lived, he would need a Firearms Owner ID card, it's an Illinois-specific hoop through which to jump. He did not have one when the rifle was purchased, he applied for one in May, and it had not been processed by the time of the Kenosha riot. Thus it would have been unlawful for him to possess the rifle in Illinois, it had to stay in Wisconsin.
Similarly he was quite correct that in Wisconsin, he would have been prohibited from carrying a pistol, either concealed or openly, because of the laws prohibiting under 18s from carrying one. The only firearm he was legally entitled to carry would be either a rifle or shotgun (and even then some of those were out, but those exceptions do not apply here).
Regardless of how the rifle was acquired, and another person has been charged with malfeasance for that, Rittenhouse's possession at the riot seems to not have been barred under any legislation.
@Flinty997 He already admitted he wasn't shot until he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse,
Rittenhouse who had just shot dead an unarmed man.
Now has he been charged with anything ?
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