I for one do not believe he shot them people out of self defence and never meant to kill them. I think he intended to kill them and thought he would get away with it. The Judge as well is a joke. What a very strange trial. Only in America.
The Canadians did it over actions in America, there's been no incidents in Canada. It was nothing but theater, and dangerous theater, to label a group as domestic terrorists, who haven't actually committed any domestic terrorism.
"As far as we know, the Proud Boys haven’t engaged in these familiar terrorist tactics—they haven’t been so much as charged with a single terrorist offence in Canada. Of course, it’s conceivable the group was planning such an attack. But Blair, when pressed, would not clarify whether the decision to label Proud Boys as special enemies of the state was based on publicly available information, secret intelligence on disrupted plots, or ongoing investigations. Whether the Proud Boys had been listed on the basis of state secrets was itself a state secret. Blair spoke of a “trove” of information, insisting that the decision had come via a neutral consideration of “evidence, intelligence, and the law.” He spoke of the group’s “escalation toward violence.”
https://thewalrus.ca/labelling-the-proud-boys-as-terrorists-may-do-more-harm-than-good/
So you have no issues with what happens in other countries so long as it meets their laws?
Really 🤣🤣🤣
Plenty of Nazi sympathisers during ww2 that weren't actual Nazis ,
When I comes down to it the proud boys won't have issues removing the recent arrivals , just like in Texas where Mexicans are supporting trump ,not because they want to but they know when Aryan republicans come looking for trouble they will be targeted ..
Thread title needs to be changed. The lad is obviously under a lot of stress and is suffering some kind of breakdown in the witness box. Mental health isn't a laughing matter. To call it acting in crass in the extreme.
No lovely people are they Wojtek. Very fine people maybe even?
USA today calls them a Far Right hate Group
Former members have this to say
Berry, along with a member of the Wisconsin Proud Boys and another former recruit, told USA TODAY the group is a den of racism and antisemitism.
https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/nation/2021/06/21/proud-boys-recruitment-targets-men-looking-community/7767817002/
And that's just from the first few results on a google search, but a bear on boards say they are actually lovely people.
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A baseball bat a non lethal weapon? I think Negan and Lucille would disagree. Vehemently. What do you think would have happened had he tazed one of the guys attacking him exactly? The others would beat him to a pulp or shoot him.
But what about the intent of the rioters who were also carrying guns? Did they have any business rioting and burning? Were they all from that town or did they travel there? If so did they travel further than Rittenhouse?
For the record in my view, if there was rioting to take place I think the smart thing for Rittenhouse to do would have been to stay well away. Lets not forget in all this the mob were the aggressors here. Dress it up in flowery what-ifs and semantics all you like. Doesn't change the facts.
Oh you can be sure they where disappointed when it turned out they where white. The likes of CNN would have stirred up the race hatred to 10.
The audacity of you to mention facts as you falsely claim that Kyle Rittenhouse shot Joseph Rosenbaum in the back. It was proven in court that Rosenbaum's hand was stained with gunpowder dust -a result of running straight into the path of the gun. Their positions would have to be completely reversed for Kyle to have shot Rosenbaum in the back. Why do you peddle such a disgraceful distortion of reality? The way you deliberately framed that situation says you have no interest at all in the facts.
And was smiling a few minutes later .
It was acting he was a multimillion dollar defence team they will have made Sure he was coached on absolutely everything ,
Was there even tears actually shed ,or was it only impression of him being constipated
"They were armed Joe, with guns
Real guns Joe. In America. Disgraceful Joe"
Go on, caller, shocking.
Don't accept that for a second. He'd have been prepped to within an inch of his life.....wouldn't have been asked any question that he wouldn't have practiced, under pressure, over and over with his defence team.
Can I just get a confirmation from those who object to the policy of letting citizens carry firearms understand that there is a general presumption that if something is not prohibited it is legal and that it's generally something of bad form to hold someone culpable, especially in a court of law, for doing something which is perfectly legal?
This is different from approving or not of the concept, which I will happily argue as someone who does go armed routinely without any trouble thus far.
They'd let you right into the special club though
I don't understand that sorry. Mexicans support Trump because they fear that if they don't that they'll be targeted?
Joshua was on the grassy knoll.
They are closer in mentality to each other than they like.
Proud boys tend to be working class, Antifa are largely a White middle class group.
Both would be lost without the other.
Childish of you.
He disagrees with your lordship so he is a KKK wannabe now.
Lol,the arrogance of you.
You're implying that if Rittenhouse doesn't bring a gun here. No one gets shot. Which makes no sense. There were shots fired by others this night its just dumb luck no one else got hit. Or more no one else was dumb enough to attack someone with a Gun. Even in Ireland where we have strict gun laws people get shot on a regular basis. So it happens here even with no guns.
This includes a 129% jump in explosive attacks (from 35 to 80); a 9% increase in shootings (from 90 to 98); an 11% rise in possession of a firearm (from 186 to 206) and a 7% increase in possession of an offensive weapon (from 1,959 to 2,097);
You're basically asking if something different happened, didn't have a gun, didn't turn up, didn't run into the first attacker, decided to go to a different part of the riots. That none of the subsequent events happened. Well duh.
That kinda implies that anyone with a gun intends to use it. However there loads of people with guns around during these riots. The vast majority didn't use them, many travelled in from elsewhere. You'd have to show clear intent (without the possibility of any doubt) that he intended to use it. The problem you will have then, is that (by their standards) he showed restraint in using it.
By our standard not firing it would have been restraint. But thats a different thing.
What?
But again only one person shot multiple people ,
just Rittenhouse
Play childish games.
Get childish prizes.
Arrogance 🤟
is that supposed to be hurtful 🤦🤦🤦
They all attacked him BEFORE he shot them though.
You are lying yet again. I have never asked your questions. Stop creating an argument and assigning it to me. This post is just pure strawman bullshit seeing as I never said the things you are now arguing against.
no prejudice at all, he made a mistake that unfortunately for him in civilised countries carrys a sentence
He made the rookie error of getting isolated, in a riot/protest. It escalated from there.
The best way of not getting isolated is to stay the hell away from these protests and riots. They are a magnet for the unhinged. That also was a rookie error.
Then why are black and Latinos calling themselves Proud Boys? I don't understand. This would never happen with a REAL far-right hate group like the KKK.
Do yourself a favour, try and find out where the name Proud Boys came from. It was a stupid drinking club that came up with a stupid name based on a song from the cartoon called Aladdin. They are a bunch of jokers led by a punk-rock joker called Gavin McInnes (who is hilarious).
You think they are the KKK. They are more like the guys from Phoenix Nights.
Good movie about Northern Ireland on Netflix 71 I think it’s called, British soldier gets isolated in a riot and differences aside its absolutely terrifying