I for one do not believe he shot them people out of self defence and never meant to kill them. I think he intended to kill them and thought he would get away with it. The Judge as well is a joke. What a very strange trial. Only in America.
So you agree guns are a threat to life?
I wonder does Kyle call people negros like Joe does. I've a feeling he doesn't.
You're a bit late realizing that people do this a lot in the States
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=OpenCarry+protest
Are you saying the Proud boys are not racist?
Im no fan of guns at all either. You were highlighting Rittenhouse for bringing a gun. Do you think he deserves blame? I don't, seems like self defence to me but lets see what the court decides on that.
In terms of blame, people that are rioting who brought guns with them are the aggressors here.
Had Rittenhouse not had a gun on him I think its highly likely he would be the one shot. And I bet we wouldn't have heard a peep about that from the mainstream media.
Considering their members contain plenty of black and Latino people? Then no, I don't believe they are racist. They are not the KKK. They are a bunch of disenfranchised people who are marginalised and slandered and totally misrepresented in the media who are desperate for a Far-Right bogeyman.
Yes, certainly. He took its defend small businesses in the community, just because most of the rioters might buy their gear in The Gap, didn't mean that Tyrone and his little corner coat shop etc should just be left to burn.
That's the essential divide in this case. The class divide.
Given the actions of much of the mob previously, it was highly advisable, guns were already present.
Why does Canada consider the Proud boys Terrorists?
Is the KKK illegal in the USA?
Sorry what unarmed people were shot during the Kenosha riot?
Wasn't Joshua the one who shot an unarmed person. On what basis are you saying that without a gun he wouldhave been shot. Shot for what?
If Joshua didn't have an assault rifle do you think he would have gone to the riot?
trump wouldn’t have got away with that. For sure. That said it’s not the other N word and used to be respectable. Maybe an example of senility.
Do you agree that shootings happen here, because you said they didn't
Any object including guns can be a threat to life. But people can be a threat to life with no weapons at all.
You're trying to imply that no one would get killed if there were no guns. But thats not true either. you could argue its probable less people would get killed if there less guns available to people. That would be reasonable.
But the reason there are so many guns in the States is that people are not reasonable. They won't accept reasonable limitations. Look at this thread, riddled with disinformation and outright untruths. No one has the higher moral ground here.
@superflyninja Had Rittenhouse not had a gun on him I think its highly likely he would be the one shot.
Shot by who exactly ,if he had gone there in the first place with a there wouldn't have been several deaths as a direct result of his action,
He's the one who ran into a situation on his own not a care in the world for himself or others ,pure stupid
Or beaten to death. But if he didn't have a gun I think its unlikely he would have decided to be their either.
Probably over the fighting with Antifa. isn't the leader of the proud boys black?
They seem to have a lot of non white members.
That's a class divide as well, they are largely coming from the working class and have a greater mix. Antifa are largely middle class white kids.
The now near complete dominance of the left in the Western world by the Middle class is destroying it bit by bit.
These activist types used go on the missions,now they are doing missionary work at home.
That is a lie. I have never made the claim there are no shootings here. Stop lying about me.
If you want top discuss anything further with me retract this nonsense claim
It's law enforcements Job not wannabe navy seals ...
Even in the most tin pot dictatorship that doesn't happen.
The wiki article gives me 4 hits for the word racism and 11 for the word racist from the article about the proud boys
Included in the article is the following piece where the ADL clearly label the proud boys racist.
However, the ADL has deemed the group as having antisemitic, Islamophobic and racist views, with the group known to threaten, intimidate or violently assault anti-racism protesters.[55] The group has claimed there is an "inherent superiority of the West", going to great lengths to mask members' connections to white supremacy.[56] The ADL states that the Proud Boys' "extreme, provocative tactics—coupled with overt or implicit racism, Islamophobia, anti-Semitism and misogyny and the fact that the group is so decentralized, inconsistent, and spread out—suggest the group should be a significant cause for concern".[51]
Who should I put more trust in the links on the wiki page or an anon poster on boards?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proud_Boys
Probably because it allows them to claim virtue points of tackling "racism" while at the same time not really have much obligation to do much seeing as the Proud boys are mostly in the US and mostly do no harm unless they are attacked first by Antifa.
I still think there is a question about Intent. He went there, where he had not business being, and he brought a lethal weapon.
He brought a Med kit to used it.
He brought a fire extinguisher to use it.
Prosecution could argue he brought a gun to use it.
If people say he brought a gun just for self-defense, he could have instead had a baseball bat, tazer or other non-lethal weapon.
Seems they like going on to college campuses fully armed and wearing body armour so they can put up recruitment posters ,and and college student who tries to challenge them gets surrounded by heavily armed goons just to intimidate them,
They don't do anything unless antifa do it to them .
Come on now ,do you actually anything about these groups
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Wikipedia isn't exactly reliable, not that you'll care.
Putting up posters? The absolute bastards
So you are of the belief that a) you can attack anyone you don't like the look of and b) that Kyle should have stood down for fear he would have fatally injured his attacker, even if that meant being fatally wounded himself????
Armed to the teeth wearing military plate carriers ,
To put up posters on a college ,
I prefer to call them pussies
"where he had no business being" means nothing legally. He's an American, who's free to go where he wants in his nation. Once again, we've another poster creating their own personal standards, that have nothing to do with legal standards. Everyone who does this is simply showing how desperate they are.
Jaysus, get his name right at least. 😀 His name is Kyle.
So they put up posters on campuses and try to not allow them be ripped down. Wow, what monsters they are.
Why are there so many black and Latino Proud Boys? They are not the KKK despite what you might have heard.