I for one do not believe he shot them people out of self defence and never meant to kill them. I think he intended to kill them and thought he would get away with it. The Judge as well is a joke. What a very strange trial. Only in America.
Rittenhouse was a fool to be there in the first place. He needed better guidance than whatever libertarian ideology he is on. But that such a clear case of self defence has reached a court is a clear indication of how politically controlled the legal system in the US has become.
They chased a guy with a rifle down the street "because he was dressed like the right-wing nutjob he is"? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes... Darwin award stuff. Let him run away and have the police deal with him.
What a sh*tshow, anyway. 17 year with an AR semi-automatic, BLM rioters, looters, Antifa loons... Was never going to end well.
Stop making excuses for the judge - no matter how much reverence he or the country has for the military it is completely inappropriate to have the room clap an upcoming witness.
Like everything in the US, it is only the right type of 'religious stuff' that is celebrated. There is another high profile case going on right now and here is a lawyer claiming 'black pastors' shouldn't be allowed to sit with the victim's family.
The DA stayed the hell away from it.
More than once I've wondered if the ADA is going for a mistrial with prejudice, so that the judge takes the heat for Rittenhouse going free, rather than himself. They know there will be riots either way, and Binger strikes me as ambitious (being a Littlefinger lookalike does not help!).
Being dressed like a right wing nut job is not grounds to chase and attack anyone. Neither is running around the street with a gun.
Shooting an unarmed protestor similarly is not necessarily grounds to chase and attack someone, this possibility being the operative around which the whole case revolves. There may be an honest belief by the chasers that there is, but that doesn't take away from the shooter's position that he is being attacked.
Your ignorance of the treatment of every aspect of this case compared to what minorities receive is nearly impressive.
It was the whitest political movement in decades.
I wasn't referring to your thoughts. I was referring to "anyone who isn't already completely convinced that Rittenhouse is guilty", as you can see in the post you quoted.
Are you asking me if I think it would be appropriate if this case were ongoing in Ireland if by some circumstances a case very similar to this were happening here? Definitely not, would be my answer. But this case is going on in the US where people are near fanatical about the military and veteran's day is a very big deal. I'd say the same about religious stuff. It has no place here any more, but the US is a different collection of cultures.
There is a mob chasing him because he was dressed like the right wing nutjob he is and had just shot an unarmed protester and was running around the streets with his gun.
Thanks for sharing the video, it saves me digging to find it. It answers the questions of posters who claimed that the group trying to disarm him couldn't have known about the shooting because he was out of their line of sight. Everyone in the crowd is shouting about it so people would find out quickly.
He's going to walk not because of the judge, but because anybody who has watched the videos (including jury) will see it was clearly self-defense.
The third guy shot, Gaige Grosskreutz, referenced the Second Amendment and claimed he had a gun for protection. He also made an earlier statement saying the presence of a gun greatly increases the chance of an incident taking place. Therefore, what was he planning to do with his own gun? He admitted that Kyle only shot him after he walked towards Kyle with his gun pointed. Prosecution is finished.
There's barely a case here at all, to be honest.
They were white people out protesting, rioting and burning things down. Jesus H Christ, does everything have to boil down to the colour of someone's skin.
By applying the law to the trial?
Nobody can predict what juries will do, they can always surprise you. But so far, he’s been pretty by the book and consistent.
The judge saw to it that only one decision will be allowed in his court
Throw enough crap at the wall and hope something sticks enough that a Jury will convict. That’s about the end of it.
Anyone have any idea what the prosecution strategy is here.
Alright, I just watched the video again (watch from 0.40 below). Regardless of the fact that Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't of been there. Regardless of the fact that the protesters, rioters, and looters shouldn't of been there.... How *isn't* this self-defense? There's literally a mob chasing him down the street and trying to jump on him.
No way he gets prosecuted for this. Clearly self-defense. Any of you would fear for your life in that scenario, and would of done the same. Looks like "kill or be killed" to me.
At the time a generation of black businessess were being looted and burnt out across America, as middle and upper class white kids and gang members met their own needs.
If they didn't have a distraction inner city America on the West would be a smoking husk.
Pressing charges bought time till they went back to College.
You can see why they did it, unfair though it is.
Officer Brittany Bray confirmed how many shells were collected from the scene. He didn't rack the shooter. You have no Idea what's going on in this case because you are far too wrapped up in your ideological echo chamber to have an fair and honest outlook
He did. It's what started the second tongue lashing from the judge.
A rushed, politically motivated prosecution, to scapegoat Rittenhouse, to prevent further rioting. Yes Rittehouse made poor decision putting himself in the situation needlessly, but surely the murder charges appear to have no basis to them! He appears to have been attacked by an armed violent, criminal mob, only shot when under direct attack and attempted to back away at every opportunity. No charges were made against Gaigekreuz, despited him being a convicted felon , in a riot, brandishing a loaded gun. Prosecution are a joke
One commentator online said the Judges was the type grew up with the flag on the pole and shi7 under the nails.
Funnily enough it is a comment that appeals to both sides. Supporters of Rittenhouse will see it as marking the Judge out as coming from blue collar working class America. His opponents will see it as proof the Judge is biased, jumped up.
He shot a manlet who raped four boys, a domestic abuser and a burglar (who was wounded), all characters who were only shot when they closed on Kyle Rittenhouse after he tried to step back. The paedophile screamed 'shoot me n[word].' He got what he wanted (he had tried off himself before). The other two were similarly closing on him to attack. I cannot see the fault in shooting a sex offender who was pointing a gun and two other angry, violent little men- who intended to hurt him badly. The prosecution seem to be making deliberate errors, like questioning Kyle on his initial silence, arguing brazenly with the judge, to get a mistrial and another go. One notable thing is how blatantly false the reporting of it is by the MSM. Google similarly promotes false reports of the case. Watching portions of it streamed by Nick Rickieta or whoever is the only way. Kyle should unfortunately have left the matter to the police as angry, usually white men, ie Antifa set fires and broke things in the name of racial justice and Black Lives.
Did Binger attempt to use that specific video as evidence? I don't believe it was ever presented, maybe I'm wrong.
That's not what happened.
Rittenhouse was attacked by Rosenbaum and shot him. Then he called a friend and said that he had shot someone. Then as people started crowding into that area he started walking back in the direction of where the police were. Then he was chased, tripped when he was hit in the back of the head, was attacked again by a kick to the head and again by Huber's skateboard before he shot Huber, then Grosskreutz advanced and aimed his gun at Rittenhouse and Rittenhouse shot him. Once Grosskreutz had retreated, Rittenhouse got up off the floor and headed down the road to where the police were, and attempted to get their attention.
I don't think there is any reasonable expectation in that situation for him to stick around with his bandages and help people, and if he had tried he would likely have ended up dead.
By that logic the 3 lads he shot created the situation that led to them being shot .
Not only does the Judge have the right to exclude such evidence, he has an obligation to. He cited the specific section of the Wisconsin code.
I've been watching the entire trial on the PBS site in the evenings. There is a lot of fascinating legal machination which isn't shown on the snippets on the 6 o clock news. (I've a law degree, I'm somewhat interested in this sort of thing)
Misleading. Wisconsin Law also says (paraphrasing) "The above does not apply in the case that the weapon being carried is a rifle or shotgun which is not a short-barreled one (which has a legal definition and this AR was not part of it), or if the rifle or shotgun was being carried by a 16-year-old who had applied for a hunting license having completed a safety course." The judge has made it clear, however, that he is going to instruct the jury on what the law is, it is not something that the prosecution or defense will be arguing. (If the intent of the law was to allow under-18s to carry a rifle only for hunting, the legislature did a horrible job of writing it into law). It's the same section, you just need to read down to 3c.
The curfew charge has been dismissed because no evidence was entered about a curfew.
As to the judge, there have been plenty of articles online talking about what this judge is like, he's been on the bench for decades. Anyone who has argued in front of him has said he's hard, but fair.
Not when discussing the ruling made by the judge about that exact language, no, it does not.
He didn't need a licence to be a part time security guard?
Lol . You need to write to the court.
A letter from Ireland is being couriered.
Your post has no relevance to whether he shot in self defense.
There you go again praising the killer. As if you are a fan of his work
Would you have similar praise for the technique of an executioner. In the performance of their work?
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