So today we have had quite a bit of derision aimed at Foster by yourself and the vacuous Fianna. What is it that`s bothering ye I wonder? Well it turns out that the bottle of wine that some of ye were hoping to pin on Bruno, or the French hitman, or the guard that never even met Sophie and who didn`t make any death bed confession, it so happens that the said wine wasn`t found near the murder scene at all. It was found quite some distance away on the direct cross country route that Bailey might have taken back to the Prairie. Not only that, but now it appears that there is yet another witness that Bailey not only admitted the killing to, but also told him about the wine. No wonder you`re agitated.
Nick Foster states that the Peado Riordan had proof it was Bailey who murdered Sophie..
The proof being:
The Daughter raping piece of trash (and I make no apologies for my description), alleged that he met Bailey in prison (Bailey was on remand at the time). He states that Bailey confessed to him, that he had indeed murdered Sophie that infamous December night..
To add credence to his confession, Bailey allegedly stated that he had taken a bottle of wine from the house and thrown it in a field further up the road, and if he searched for it, he would find it. He then described his escape route - Basically over the moors in darkness. The child rapist then allegedly reported this to the Gards (as per Nick Fosters line of facts)
Embarrassingly for Foster, the wine bottle was found long before Riordan went to prison, the Gards knew about the discarded wine long before Riordan met Bailey (if he ever did).
This is all to sell a book.. To be prepared to send a man to prison for the rest of his life to make a few bucks speaks volumes.. Absolute volumes.
And..... As if Bailey would sling a good bottle of wine away.... Plleeeeasee!!!!
Don't even know the shite your talking about I'm afraid. You think there was no death bed confession??? Well you don't have the sources I have. Whatevs.
And the blatant lie is what exactly?
You have no sources
You have no clue about me or my sources.
What I wonder is, if it was Bailey who tossed the wine, why carry it that far from the scene and then leave it beside a road where it may be discovered quickly? If you're going cross country why not toss it in a ditch between two fields where it is far less likely to ever be found?
It makes more sense to me that it was tossed from a car, and I think we can say with a high degree of confidence that Bailey was on foot, if it was him who carried out the crime.
Aside from that there is no evidence to back up what Nick Foster has been tweeting. I'd take anything he says with a pinch of salt considering he has a financial motive to keep interest in the case alive, and in particular, interest that fits the narrative of his book.
Because you are singling out posters here who are "pro Bailey", I'll state again, as I have done plenty of times before, that I have not discounted Bailey as the perpetrator. I think he was capable of the crime, but I just don't see enough evidence or indeed motive to convince me.
He would have carried it from the scene if his prints were on it. He wouldn`t have brought it home because it might have later connected him to the victim. So he would have deposited somewhere on route. If you were the guard rushing back to Bantry, would you throw it from your car window there? Wouldn`t you be more likely to throw off the bridge at Durrus? No stopping, no hiding it, straight into the river.
To be honest I don't believe the detective theory at all. There's very little to no evidence for it, as much as there's no evidence for anyone in this case.
But I'd lean towards believing someone has tossed the bottle out the window of a car in a panic minutes after leaving the scene vs someone walking cross country with it for over a kilometer and then deciding that was the place to dispose of it.
The bottle of wine is irrelevant in a criminal investigation.
For one thing, it's gone.
For another, no DNA or fingerprints were taken from it.
If it was a herring it would be red.
It's only useful to people who want to play the game of speculation, but be aware that you can't win that game because nothing will ever be proven with regard to the bottle of wine.
You'd think he'd have thrown it into the sea while he was down at Kealfadda bridge doing his washing...
Ah ya ...the old bottle of wine ..... found by who?
Looks to me it was found very close to if not on her own land (seperate parcel) in dunmanus a couple of Km's away from her holiday home ...
Exceptional views... Wonder who farms it now...?
every time i read this thread it reminds me of the saying....think horses not zebras
Who says he was at Kealfada bridge?
If the bottle of wine had anything to do with the crime at all the murderer would have wiped the bottle clean of fingerprints with ease.
Exactly my opinion. I find it funny that there are still users who believe otherwise and are going on discussing that bottle of wine.
In order for the bottle of wine to be of relevance, it would have to be linked to the murder with evidence which holds up in court. That would mean, the bottle was used as a weapon to deliver one of the blows to Sophie and have the fingerprints or other DNA of the murderer on it. On top of that the bottle of wine was found on the side of the road anybody could have passed on, irrespective if he or she visited Sophie's house any time before, on the day or after the murder.
Even if we can establish that Bailey actually bought that particular bottle of wine it would never prove that he was actually the killer.
Some of us curious sorts would still like an explanation about this mystery of the missing wine bottle... not that we're likely to get it.
So today we have had quite a bit of derision aimed at Foster by yourself and the vacuous Fianna. What is it that`s bothering ye I wonder?
Are you seriously supporting the muppet who wrote this:
"Sophie called out "Monsieur, Monsieur!" after the man. This is not a way a French person would address a prowler or indeed a 'hitman'. It rather suggests Sophie knew her attacker. She was angry with the man for taking the bottle. He then struck her with it."
No.
Mod: a bunch of posts deleted, originating at a needlessly personal, hostile post.
Consider this a reminder to keep it civil. It ain't hard. Discuss the case, stop biting at each other.
Thankyou. I know a couple of us reacted but there was no need for what tibruit started.
you're all talk of sources you cannot name. If a cop, or anyone involved is giving you information he is breaking the law. maybe not boast so much about it online if it were true. you never know who might read it
I have sources too i cannot post what they say because if I did the source may be found out
I haven't boasted about anything. I was rightly pissed off with a rude troll last night.
I have actually said, several pages back, that I know someone with the files and they tell me the odd thing if I ask. I've shared virtually nothing that isn't already in the public domain and no one has broken the law. You must realise that certain people, investigative journalists etc were given the files, no?
As for the deathbed confession, it's common local knowledge. There is weight to it, but I've never expanded on it here. Also, it's unlikely to ever be proven unless relevant people talk or Drew Harris unmasks the corruption and cover up that went on.
I have my sources too but do not need the world to know what i know
You can tell us SoulWriter,
we won't tell anyone -honest.
Id say his/her sources are Johnny Moriarty in West Cork after a rake of pints of Guinness & a Snackbox on a Saturday night outside the local chipper.😂
@tibruit is not a troll. I don't agree with his perspective on the case but he has as much right to make his point here as anyone else. It doesn't benefit anyone posting in an echo chamber.
There was an idiot posting here a few weeks ago calling people 'Bailey Fanboys'. He was rightly put in his place.
I'm from the area and while I didn't know the Guard myself i've mentioned it to people who did know him and had dealings with him and they have never heard about this "death bed confession". So it's not common local knowledge. Why don't you give us the names of the people he supposedly told and what he said exactly and maybe the story could be verified.
The only person who has given journalists the file is Bailey.
@scoobysna, On second thoughts prob not a good idea putting any names on a public forum, send them to me privately if you want.
No thank you
Yes and some of them have shared info that wasn't in the public domain before.
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