My mum's annual electricity bill for her EV is less than the cost of a single tank of diesel 😁
I am not talking new, but say the ID4 when that car is worth 20 000 euro in 5 years maybe? what will its range be? I cannot see any car doing 400 km for 20 000 new.
Yaris I never drove one, thank god. I usually do 400 km once a month, does not bother me the slightest that it costs 30 euro or 3 euro, it only matters I have a productive day, I don't want to the same the next week because I had to spend an hour at a charger.
I don't know what type of cars you all drive but road noise engine noise never bothered me, as for breaks usually its in Dublin, a nice meal etc. last thing I want is a big mac at some service station. very rarely stop mid motor way.
I'm 6 months in to EV owner ship and have only needed to use a public charger once .. covered 14,000km in that period.
think of all the time I've saved in garage forecourts and wasted money on coffee and snickers that I didn't want or need
I've worked it out. The ev to work for me is c60k. It will take me near 20 years for the saving to reach the cost. Which it never will because I'll be dead before then
Do you plan to cycle to work for the next 20 years?😉
Certainly some of the time.
Pretty sure you've missed huge chunks in that calculation.
Are you comparing the price of two similarly specced new cars? If its the case that you normally don't buy new cars then you should be looking at used prices, their likely isnt one available for you today, but those new cars sold today end up being that lower cost used car you buy in a few years.
That's not exactly comparing like with like.
Something doesn't add up there, you're saying you need to spend €60k to get an EV that covers your needs. That implies a car with over 400km of range
Yet you're saying you're able and happy to cycle to work, which implies a distance of under 20km. A gen1 Leaf or Zoe with a degraded battery would cover this without any problems and cost only around €5k
Plus the ID3 Tour has the biggest battery in the market outside of Tesla and costs around €40k.
So now that we know they are tapering the BIK benefit for EV buyers from 2023. Is there any financial advantage in getting a new EV in 2022 through my company rather than buying it myself?
I'm self-employed through a limited company with very small work-related mileage. Thanks in advance.
Well I suppose you've still got 2 years BIK free, and presumably there'll be some advantage for having an EV after 2023, so it's worth factoring that into your calculations
I jumped in this with a E-Niro for company, same situation as you have decided that I'll probably tag out in end of 2023 due to the BIK increase. It's still worth it for me as I need the car with seats now and not thinking beyond this timeframe at the moment.
You only use a car to get to work?
And its real range in winter?
I'm expecting around 370km, but I consistently get the worst efficiency in any car I've had, so I suspect that most would comfortably get 400km even in winter.
Is it a secret what car you were referring to for €60k?
Overpriced dinkys will never match a diesel car and i have zero intrest in ever buying one. They wont take off here for another decade at least
Define match?
An EV is Cleaner, quieter, faster, cheaper to run, cheaper to maintain, more fun to drive, less time actively spent refuelling, pre heating in winter, precooling in summer, better tech
What's the diesel advantage, can drive Malin to Mizen non-stop in a nappy?
Can't see that handle fitting into lots of cars
Thanks for sharing.
The handle will fit. I can't see why would this be a paradigm in EV adoption. Are you sure it is not a clip like those of juice media?
Use of headset recommended
😂
diesel is the devil, a decent petrol and we could talk but diesel cars have very little to redeem them range aside,
and as another poster said up above, most ev drivers spend far less time refueling than ice drivers.
It’s wonderful not needing to stop at stinky petrol stations.
The handle looks to wide. Doesn't the MG charge from a flap in the front bumper? I remember watching Bob Flavin or Nobby having an issue getting a normal CCS into it.
Just when I think that England has mastered being a parody of itself, they do something like this.
Had a few people saying "Well did you see Claire Byrne the other night with the 2 old people and that electric car sure those things will never work "
Maybe I need to get new friends 😁
Your daily commute is the first thing you should use to estimate what range you need from a car. Ideally an EV can cover this without any concerns and still have useable range leftover for unexpected journeys. If your commute is so long that it requires a charge, then you need to balance the time spent charging against the cost savings of driving electric.
After that, it's leisure journeys, if there's regular long trips you take. This is again a bit of a balancing act. Presumably since it's a leisure journey then you can afford some time for a recharge. In general a single 15 mins stop is what most people seem to consider reasonable. In a car like the ID.3 Tour that Phil mentioned charging at a HPC, that should get to 550-600km of range at motorway speeds, even in winter. For comparison that's enough to go from Dublin to Cork and back again
So I'm seriously wondering what this €60k car is which can only suit your needs?
Also, we were forced to listen to Grant Schapps, had to fast forward through that bit
Oooh edgy. We've got a live one here folks
You're correct, an EV will never be as unpleasent as an overpriced car fitted with a tractor engine
Not sure about taking off, almost as many EVs sold as diesels this year, number of EVs doubled in less than 2 years and 6 month waiting lists on every EV on the market
Might want to go back to your crystal ball with that one, sounds like they've already taken off 😉
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