Great to see under 35s so strongly in support of the union. The nip is a part n but thanks to the gfa the union is very secure. Thank god we’ve got it, I wouldn’t like to be relying on Boris and co. Thanks to the republicans who accepted it. We will always be in your debt
https://mobile.twitter.com/ajmcq1993/status/1456544245406474242
Don’t shoot the messenger. I think this is an interesting contribution
https://twitter.com/JamieBrysonCPNI/status/1456661377548967941?s=20
Brexit TV reporter channels Jamie Bryson's victimhood. Now for the sport...
Interesting conversation started by Alex Kane on Twitter about this poll downcow (who is far from a shinner) in which this little bit was posted. I think we can throw this survey (not a poll) in the bin if this is true.
Apparently the poll was of 1002 people and 267 were nationalist.
Don't shoot the messenger when you quote that hateful bigot? That says a lot about you to be honest!
The notion that the youngsters throwing missiles and petrol bombs and trying to antagonize on sectarian lines, know anything about the protocol needs to be challenged. Jamie Bryson and GM TV are not going to do that.
"Their culture is being undermined"
Do they have any plan to stop the English underming it?
My only interest was in quoting the video and I could only find it attached to JBs tweet.
I am interested though why you think he shouldn’t be quoted. I don’t know much about him but I don’t understand he has been convicted of anything though there are lots of rumours circulated by republicans about his relationship to some in the Uvf. I have quoted Gerry Adam’s and you haven’t had a problem with it. A wee bit more sectarianism evident in position.
I would agree with Alex here. Polls are just that.
as for numbers. I haven’t looked at figures. Is that 27% nationalist or 27% those who vote nationalist? Very different things.
This new ‘wonder drug’ for treating COVID that the Uk is first in world to authorise is another example of how we would lose out if protocol was implemented 100%. It couldn’t come in to ni because it was not passed by Eu.
It was also the first in the world to start vaccinating but the EU, where demand existed, had more supply before the UK finished despite the EU only using about 50% of production internally. I’d back precedent tbh.
Also, a lot of the European production for the Pfizer is going to be in Cork, which happens to be in the EU.
You are under impression the eu wont pass it,why?
oh I am quite sure they will pass it in due course. Not much use to someone lying ill in a Belfast hospital.
Not sure what this all means.
NI led the world (bar Israel) in vaccination speed. We are now near last in Europe but that has zero to do with vaccine availability but rather a slightly higher proportion of vaccine sceptics.
So NI was world-beating in vaccinations whilst operating under the NIP? Good to know.
Completely wrong.
"The MHRA has announced that it has approved molnupiravir (Lagevrio), the first oral antiviral drug for the treatment of COVID-19. It has granted the new treatment a conditional marketing authorisation valid in Great Britain, together with an emergency use authorisation for Northern Ireland to ensure access across the whole UK."
You seem very keen to get bogus minus points against the protocol. Could this be because it actually has no practical downside for NI residents ? Rather for once in our normally sad little country we actually have a bit of good fortune in that we are sort of in but also out. The protocol should be something to celebrate and milked for all its worth but yet again since the DUP didnt think of it, they want it torn down, in much the same way as they never wanted the GFA to happen. They seem to enjoy misery, especially misery for all.
The questions you should he asking are why the DUP (and indeed UUP) voted against every Brexit bill since 2016 but in all those years have not put up a credible alternative that fitted with the GFA. Pulling down is relatively easy, building up not so much.
However,they likely wouldnt be lying dying in hospiteal,if the uk hadnt decided to let it "burn through" the population
4 year olds learn about cause and consequence
Stephen Nolan is hardly a 'republican' and he questioned him intensely on it and claimed he sounded very much like a spokesman for the UVF, so close was his comments and concerns.
Why would he have to be convicted of something to come to the conclusion that he is bigoted and hateful?
This is a classic example of the cod legalese he indulges in. Caught bang to rights forging accounts he tries to act all 'barristery' with the reporter. 😁
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I didn’t say he was or wasn’t anything. I asked a poster why he challenged me about quoting jamie Bryson (implicated in Uvf post ceasefire) and he didn’t challenge my on quoting Gerry (implicated in a range of sectarian killings and abduction, torture and murder of an innocent woman). That’s all. It seemed strange to me.
Perhaps because Gerry is a retired politician who has nothing to do with The Protocol and Bryson is front and centre agitating about it? Just a guess!
Bryson is PRO for the uvf.....a useful,if harmless idiot,but ultimately the uvf arent going to give him a say,only tell him what to say
The bloke has carved out a nice niche for himself,being young,reasonable articulate,loyalist with a reasonablely strong social media presence,but an influencial decision maker,or deep political thinker,he simply isnt......
his career will ultimately end into same endblock as paisley....he'll end up interacting with shinners and get along grand and likely make a few friendships outta it,being ultimaely jettisoned by hardliners
Out of 200 Muslims, 190 said they would support a UI and 10 were unsure. None were against the idea. With the inevitable growing amount of foreigners that will come here over the next decades it is interesting that they associate the south as being far more tolerant than the North. Perhaps this will be the swing vote.
"The 30 year IRA sectarian onslaught" - the blinkered oversimplification of the NI conflict is extremely telling but not surprising.
The real reason why Brexit was backed and the Protocol was opposed.
In other words, 'We can't be having economic security if it means the north and south come closer together'
The penny has dropped for you.
I was giving you how the troubles felt for most unionists ie ira sectarian onslaught and of course it could be difened as ‘blinkered’ in exactly the same way as republicans blaming ‘the brits’ for all their woes.
read it again if you like. My intention was to reflect how unionists are confident they can come through this bump in the road.
You are in good company there. I’m glad he’s not affirming OWC good relations. He has an interesting take on what he thinks is inclusion 😮
here’s a few examples of what groups the world over, including fellow Muslims think of this nice gentleman
“In response, a UK organisation representing gay Muslims accused Shaykh Al-Qadri of insulting LGBT people. Others described his Facebook post as “disgusting” , “unbelievable arrogance” and “very hurtful and damaging”.
“The Australia-based Freedom2b group, which supports LGBT people from Christian backgrounds, also criticised his comment”.
Shaykh Al-Qadri referred in his Facebook post “to the beliefs of Jewish people and Christians [insinuated], and LGBTQIA people’s ways of loving, respectively, as ‘Kufr’, ‘Shirk’ and ‘Fisq’”, it said.
It claimed “all of these are slurs against these respective communities. Those of us who have been to mosques can attest to this, as these words are usually shouted with spittle and are filled with venomous hatred.”
“Despite his attempts to portray himself as a liberal and tolerant individual, he was roundly criticised by LGBT groups for his invitation to break fast at his mosque that they viewed as "insulting" - as he continued to describe homosexuals as "sinful".”
To quote Greta Thunberg " more blah, blah, blah" from the Tories, who shown that they cannot be trusted in any agreement.
Their intention all along was to dishonour their word and are now trying to have it both ways - having access to the EU without the responsibility of paying for it. We all know that the British government, as it now stands, does not honour its word.
The young people of Britain are going to be very angry with them. when they feel the real pain of not having access to their closest market, and we in the Republic are not going to accommodate their duplicity. We are Europe now, not just a small insignificant entity. We now have a big friend to defend us against the bully.
"The penny has dropped for you" - you've put down a blatant (and self confessed lie) about the NI conflict and have the audacity to follow up with that?!
You're, continuous, intention is to muddy the waters whilst pretending to be 'moderate'. The faux "I'm not sure how it works" and continuous denial of the truths presented are beyond ignorance, it's extended trolling at this stage.
"Unionists have potential gains"
Please explain what you mean by this statement
The startling thing about that post is the equivalence drawn and the depth of the victimhood complex.
The message is that everyone is against Unionism. Classic 'victimhood' in other words. If the Protocol is bad then as it is a trade measure, it should be equally bad for everyone. But the fact is (and it cannot be refuted whenever you ask) that it is bad in an abstract way for a subset of insecure and consequently belligerent Unionists
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