That’s what we said when we switched. We can burn the money in our old car or lose it on depreciation of a much newer more reliable and safer car… 😀
Fuel is the biggest saving by far, typically in the order of €1000 per year for average mileage cars
Especially given the latest fuel prices, since when did petrol go over €1.70 per litre!?
It'd almost be more cost effective to fuel the car by literally burning money
My annual insurance dropped from €380 last year, for a diesel 2012 Kia Ceed, to €315 for an i3 i got last July. However, i have heard, there have been widespread reductions all around, so its not specifically, an EV reduction.
Shop around, in advance of going EV, to avoid any surprises.
Road tax is an even bigger saving, as it reduced from €270, to €120, and for people with higher co2 emmission ICE cars, savings are much bigger.
First year I went EV I think it dropped from €580 to €500. Been steadily decreasing since.
How much are you saving on insurance since going electric?
Mine said the opposite.
Mine went up when I went from a 2007 Toyota Auris to a 2016 Nissan Leaf. It then went down after I got a new ID.4
So it's gone either way for me. The Leafs had a spate of getting robbed a lot though, apparently the security on the Nissan key was garbage.
Indeed some lad managed to use a signal booster one night to unlock the car and got inside. Luckily he wasn't able to start the car and the most valuable thing I had in the car was a trolley token
delighted to hear it , can i ask you how much yours cost ?
If mods can, fire ahead.
Ah, when I said "Insurance is typically the same" I meant the same as you're currently paying.
Most people I've heard from would say that they're cheaper. That's been my own experience too.
This post should be a sticky thread!
are you sure insurance costs are lower ?
my broker told me last year electric cars werent any cheaper to insure ?
This is really helpful, thank yiu
I'd of though IEVOA site would of had something, but no (at least not obviously) - https://www.irishevowners.ie/
If you post a thread about the type of driving you do, space requirements and budget people here are always happy to help. I was a complete newbie 6 months ago and a total convert now.
Are there any threads which cover the “things to know/consider before you buy an electric car”?
ive no idea about battery sizes, charging times, range, cost of charging etc, so any help would be appreciated.
It won't be coming here though, will it?
Mitsubishi are largely leaving Europe. They reversed a total withdrawal, but it seems the reversal only really extends to them and Renault jointly developing a couple of cars which will be sold under both brands. But they have not changed their minds on leaving the UK. The new models will not be available there. And if they're not doing RHD for UK, I'm sure they're not doing them for here either.
New outlander 20 KW BATTERY
Maybe it will have CCS. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/all-new-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-debuts-with-twin-motor-4wd-setup-54-mile-ev-range-172823.html
Pleasant.
Its a small battery, you work it out, only an idiot would try to dump more electrons into it than it can handle. I found it well suited to my needs without any great expense unlike some other cars. A reliable brand also not some start up, they have sorted most problems by now like panel gaps and door handles etc.
Don't confuse DC connection with fast charge e.g. the whore that is a Mits Outlander has a CHAdeMO DC connection but it maxes at 22kW/hr, my Model S charges marginally faster on AC (which we consider a "slow" charger)
Just to save you some time BMW x5 I think 24kW, Toyota rav4, and Suzuki across both 18 kWh. Mercedes e300 e has 100 km range, forget what battery size. Mercedes and Mitsubishi are the only makes that fast charge.
Its battery is very, very big by the way: 31kWh, which is almost as big as that of the original Nissan Leaf. Not only will it take you a very long way solely on electric power (we saw an easy 80km, even with some dual-carriageway driving mixed in) but you can even quick-charge it. The 350de will charge to 80 per cent power in about 20 minutes from a 50kWh rapid charging point, although you will have to suffer the death-dagger stares from electric car drivers when they see you hogging a charging point with one of these."
Another big battery CCS PHEV...death dagger stares.....
That would power a circulation pump for 5 hours.
Circulation pumps are 100w. . Assuming the lights are LED it’ll do them for hours
I don't know about the price increases, inflation, greed and demand?
I am trying to figure all this out, it has 10 kW usable plus 3kw as a buffer and a 1.4 l engine and your comparing it to what a 4wd 2 litre petrol version?
About the power I will have to call nonsense again unless you find it reasonable to drive the phev flat out to empty the buffer to have any effect on power, it seems that the phev is infact the most power full of any version bar the 2l 4wd 320 bhp which has fuel economy of 38 mpg or about 7l/100km which is 25000 euro more expensive than the phev
As for vrt, its a standard model less polluting less tax, I find it entirely plausible that the arteon can do 50- 60 km on battery and the 1.4 petrol engine is very efficient and powerful in hybrid mode for example done 660 km in my mothers bmw 225xe 1.5 charges so 60 km and got 5.5l/100km motorway driving for over 400km no loss of power either.
These sorts of UPS only will power things for a few minutes. They are meant for power glitches and to give time to save data. They won't power a boiler for a number of hours, and once they die the need power again to recharge. As opposed to using power from EV which could run heating possibly for more than a day, or even multiple days if you ran oil burner in bursts of a few hours a time.
I wonder what the 5G conspiracy theorists will make of that, they'll think we're getting our brainwaves hacked 😂
Wireless charging seems to be a bit of a ghost which keeps coming and going. It'll be great if it works, but I have a feeling that planners will look at the infrastructure needed and just install charging stations instead
One place it could really help would be long range trucks, giving them the ability to charge along a motorway would really reduce the battery needs for them
“The interdisciplinary teams have started testing new wireless charging concepts for electric vehicles. Their goal is to develop a higher-power wireless charger through breakthrough designs that focus electromagnetic waves to eliminate interference, thus increasing efficiency. In the first trials, a prototype system has shown a high level of efficiency where up to 98 percent of the energy used (coil-to-coil) could reach the vehicle battery.
the teams also have been able to build from a charging power level of 6.6 kW up to 120 kW, with a goal of 300 kW – enough to provide an 80 percent recharge of the Porsche Taycan in about 10 minutes.”
This would do them https://www.huntoffice.ie/apc-back-ups-950va-ups-ac-230-v-480-watt-950-va-usb-output-connectors-6-black-bx950ui-3352445.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw8eOLBhC1ARIsAOzx5cHp5XweCpJy5AliJoKr5NIsWccY4RNRlHFqpF69Xz_tFfPA1SGtAtMaAl3YEALw_wcB
