This is really helpful, thank yiu
are you sure insurance costs are lower ?
my broker told me last year electric cars werent any cheaper to insure ?
This post should be a sticky thread!
Most people I've heard from would say that they're cheaper. That's been my own experience too.
Ah, when I said "Insurance is typically the same" I meant the same as you're currently paying.
If mods can, fire ahead.
delighted to hear it , can i ask you how much yours cost ?
Mine went up when I went from a 2007 Toyota Auris to a 2016 Nissan Leaf. It then went down after I got a new ID.4
So it's gone either way for me. The Leafs had a spate of getting robbed a lot though, apparently the security on the Nissan key was garbage.
Indeed some lad managed to use a signal booster one night to unlock the car and got inside. Luckily he wasn't able to start the car and the most valuable thing I had in the car was a trolley token
Mine said the opposite.
How much are you saving on insurance since going electric?
First year I went EV I think it dropped from €580 to €500. Been steadily decreasing since.
My annual insurance dropped from €380 last year, for a diesel 2012 Kia Ceed, to €315 for an i3 i got last July. However, i have heard, there have been widespread reductions all around, so its not specifically, an EV reduction.
Shop around, in advance of going EV, to avoid any surprises.
Road tax is an even bigger saving, as it reduced from €270, to €120, and for people with higher co2 emmission ICE cars, savings are much bigger.
Fuel is the biggest saving by far, typically in the order of €1000 per year for average mileage cars
Especially given the latest fuel prices, since when did petrol go over €1.70 per litre!?
It'd almost be more cost effective to fuel the car by literally burning money
That’s what we said when we switched. We can burn the money in our old car or lose it on depreciation of a much newer more reliable and safer car… 😀
Yup. That's how I man math'd my way into our first ev. A lot trickier with the second Ev though.
Well they're not emitting more CO2 than a car because that is directly related to the amount of petrol burnt and a litre of petrol will keep a walk behind lawnmower running for many many hours. Prohibition seems to be the solution preferred. Synthesized fuel isn't considered as an alternative. They mustn't like the possibility that the engine will suck in nitrogen and combine it with oxygen. It isn't even a case of banning two-stokes where the lubricant is burned. They want to ban four strokes too.
Good luck holding a hedgetrimmer or chainsaw at arms length if powered by a battery which provides near similar power to the equivalent petrol powered machine. Isn't holding a heavy object at arms length for a period of time a cruel form of punishment.
I'm just jaded with the scientific claims made to justify prohibition of everything which are fleetingly waved in the face of the public without being fact-checked.
Depreciation may not be as high as previously expected, well that's what I am telling myself anyway...🙂
We switched to battery powered chainsaw, lawnmower, hedgecutter and strimmer
Would never go back to petrol ones, esp for garden use.
Chainsaw is small, but perfect for what we are doing, cutting the odd branch when fencing, tidying up gateways etc. No hassle starting, dying out. Just pick up turn on, cut, set back down.
They are actually lighter than a petrol one and the balance is better too.
I currently have 2 batteries, and with that it runs long enough for me.
If I had 3 batteries and 2 chargers I wouldn't have to stop at all.
I'm happy you have had a good experience with your battery powered horticultural machines but you would have paid(will pay) considerably more for those products than for entry level petrol engined devices upfront and in the long term. Your devices don't have the same specific power density as petrol engined devices. Like us who have adopted EVs you are "making it work" in spite of the technical limitations and expense.
Random Thought: I miss the range in excess of 1200km on a 59 litre tank of the diesel car I had before.
I think they should bring in a plug in hybrid range of tools, you know the best of both and it will keep no one happy
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I'd prefer a 220v output in the car and then move the car further down the driveway to power the pure electric(sans batterie) garden equipment.
Morketing departments for Rivian, Lordstown Motor, Ford 150 monstrosities see that as the means by which they can incentivise sales and not by appealing to the little eco green voice in Americans heads which obviously doesn't exist.
I used to have a phone that would last a week.
My present one is much better, but has to be plugged in when I sleep..😉
Oh leaf blower too! Great for cleaning out combines/balers.
Yep more expensive, batteries are as much as the tool themselves.
I'm just glad I don't have to deal with temperamental 2 stroke engines anymore. And the noise of them.
I'm not for banning them or anything silly like that. I'm saying they are easier, more powerful and handier to use than the petrol equivalent.
electric and petrol horticultural machinery lasts decades. Battery powered machines have a limited life span due to the batteries being uneconomical to replace. If the E.U. dictated standardized batteries like they do with standardized charging cables one of my bigger objections to them would be addressed but the big issue of specific power density remains.
This is probably true but it’s hard to know so I was pessimistic in the calculations.
Not the worst article I’ve read…https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/1029/1256680-electric-cars/
Personally I don't get the obsession with battery powered garden tools. Corded ones are often more powerful and can be cheaper than even the petrol versions
For example I got a Bosch electric lawnmower and extension cord for cheaper than a petrol mower. It's small and light enough to fit on the shelves in my shed, and powerful enough to cut through the hay when I forgot to mow the lawn for 6 weeks. Much better than any petrol mower I've ever had, and I don't need to faff about remembering to get a can of fuel from the petrol station
Battery powered tools are nice, but they're not always needed for most applications. Plus as @[Deleted User] mentioned, it'll be ideal when EVs have V2L as standard, then you can use your car as a mobile power station for your outdoor tools if needed
Have I strayed into the Gardening forum?
Anyway, back to random EV thoughts, just remember that with the clocks changing last night, the night rate period is now 11pm --> 8am, in case anyone might have timers set.
Also if you have a Zappi then make sure to update the firmware as they recently fixed a bug with the hour changing on the wrong date
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