Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

It might end up in another round of impeachment moves against him, were he to run again AND get elected again. Then again, if he were to be convicted in court before the voting started at any level, even the individual state committee stages, the USSC might tell him it wont hear any case he and his legal team petitions it to hear because of the conviction. Civil cases might be seen by the USSC as outside its remit if they were brought in State courts by citizens [singular or class-action cases] against Trump over his own actions or the actions of others thinking he had given them power to commit criminal actions against the citizens. I don't know if any Cops injured in the line of duty against the Capitol Hill mob have stated cases against Trump on the basis of the Mob members court defence claims that their actions were authorised by then-President Trump.

Reading an Extra.ie item on an MSNBC page about his latest legal move, it seems Trump wants some information [disputed documents] the committee IS TO GET possession of from the National Archive in early Nov be omitted when, presumably a committee report or press release, is made public. It makes one suspect that there's something which he doesn't want the public or his base to hear or get to know about his activities on the 06 Jan 2020....

Donald Trump filed a lawsuit against a select committee which is investigation the circumstances surrounding the riots last January. The lawsuit also targets the country’s National Archive.

In the suit filed on Monday, Mr Trump’s representatives have argued that some of the information due to be released by the committee should be protected.

It is argued that documents which contained confidential communications gathered in the committee investigation should be omitted when they are released to the public.

Mr Trump’s team suggested that those communications should be protected by executive privilege, which they argued should have been afforded to him as a result of his former role of Commander in Chief.

Just when you think you can’t be surprised any more by Donald trump, he proves us all wrong by sinking even lower. I mean there have been bad things you can say about most US presidents of the modern era, but one thing that had in common is when they were and are called upon to do the basics of offering condolences to a family as ex president, they can at least do that with some degree of decency. All except Donald trump who couldn’t even lower the flags at the White House and as was mentioned he had to get a slight in.

whatever else you may think of Colin Powell, he due to his military service in Vietnam and after that deserves the flag lowering and whatever else is due him. I mean Trump at least once complained that he didn’t get credit for lower the flags, when in reality he didn’t even do anything special.

There's just a bone spur between Trump and Powell.

'Hope that happens to me someday'

So busy being snide and sarcastic that he didn't really think that through!

If so, he'll probably also pass comment about the honour being given to Powell ref permission in whatever location the General is being waked at in the same way he did McCain.

I actually had to check that this wasn’t old news because there was something similar post January 6th. I see the launch date in the beginning of next year, which falls under the release of taxes, healthcare plan(although he did give a timeframe for that), and I’m sure I’m forgetting some others but we’ve seen this box office flop before.

The sure fire way to know it won’t happen is trump talking about it.

According to a post on The New Civil Rights Movement F/B page, a gent named Mikael Thalen [a tech writer with the Daily Dot based in Austin Texas] hacked the site using the handle @donaldtrump and the site has been taken offline.

WaPo's Tech reporter, Drew Harwell is following a report that accounts for Donald Trump and Mike Pence on it were either created by other persons or the accounts were vulnerable and hacked.

This source seems to think the new Trump social media venture is just another way of him making money and it doesn't matter if it fails or not. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2059403?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=Sendible&utm_campaign=RSS&fbclid=IwAR25Gznce3qWbINe6YMcSeNEJf_Vwwon2NNFt5B2uZOX_3DAUNy3960SqNg

Now I’m sure we all remember when Kevin McCarthy put forward his picks for the January 6th commission that didn’t happen and one of those picks was rep. Andy Biggs of Indiana and Nancy pelosi said no and McCarthy threw toys out of several prams. Well it seems rep briggs has been requesting documents from the same federal agencies that the committee is asking from and signing it ranking member which he isn’t. Liz Cheney called him on it on the house floor and he’s not happy.

FYI, on matters Capitol Insurrection bid, BBC 2 TV is playing the documentary "Four Hours At The Capitol" covering the storming of the Capitol building at 5 minutes past midnight again.

I thought his attack on Colin Powell was a new low for Trump, I honestly thought WOW there's no way he could possibly go any lower.

But it's Trump, he always has to set a new bar

He’s a **** cretin. Jesus h Christ and it wasn’t up to him to allow John McCains funeral as he said.

this documentary on the riot on BBC two is eye opening because the amount of mental gymnastics is startling.

There is not a shred of decency or dignity in that statement. It is completely off the wall bonkers. If it had been an off the cuff interview comment then it would almost be possible to see how someone could say it, but to formulate it into a written statement is beyond disgusting. And some one else was involved it in, there is no way he can construct even slightly complex sentences, evidently any advice was overruled.

In an interesting turn of events rolling stone is reporting today that the January 6th protest organisers are saying that held “dozens” of meetings with members of congress and the White House in the lead up to the day. If you wondered why the GOP want to downplay and in some cases invent alternative reality of that day, now we know(I think we knew anyway) and it’s because they are up to their necks in this.

One should assume [if one were sane] that the people organizing the attack on the Capitol thought they would succeed in their aim and that to the winner go the spoils. That might not include the incipient leader of the gang who seems to be a reckless gambler with other peoples fortunes. There lies the chance that he might get away blame-free if enough of his conspirators don't turn states evidence to save themselves by testifying that he attended at, was aware of and directed the meetings and discussion themes there-in.

The USSC has to be given enough information through the committee chair to make an unbiased legal majority decision that it will NOT hear any application from the leaders defence team against allowing the committee taking evidence from any of the leaders former W/House staffers on spurious claims of executive privilege. It has to be assured that what the committee chair provided to it amounts to evidence that members of congress involved themselves in the conspiracy to attack the congress sitting in the Capitol building on the 06th Jan 2020 and deigned to act with treasonous intent against the US and its constitution, including the court itself.

The last sentence in yours, if it were not done to basically - milk them for cash - defraud the average Trump/GOP membership base [something I wouldn't put past him and others with an interest similar to his] would oblige him to carry out a successful two-part operation. 1: win the actual election. 2:if he fails to win it fairly, try for a re-run of Jan 2020. He'd have to have the total assistance of the GOP to do so. I think that with the number of criminal trials running/ending or starting of his 2020 election close acquaintances [incl those in his Capitol insurrection bid] they may not be as much interested in his future as in theirs. The acquaintances may have some vague hope of him being re-elected in order to get a presidential pardon for anything they are charged/convicted of in federal court in the next 3 years. Edit: the dislike he has raised between others is spilling over towards him now due to the statements he has made about them and their characters.

Yeah, because its becoming increasingly clear how involved he was in the attempted coup.

Also, Trump had massive media coverage in 2020, and the years leading up to it, even using the WH to carry out electioneering.

And yet he still lost. Not being known, or talked about, is not Trumps issue. The issue is the more he is talked about, the more known about him, the less likely he has of winning.

To be honest, if what we know about Trump should hurt his political chances, then he shouldn't even be allowed to run for president of his local golf society, never mind President of the USA. How many things has he done or said which would have been considered utterly unimaginable for a previous president? Which would have been intolerably scandalous? I think the only sure ways to defeat Trump in the next election, were he to run, would be to A) offer a candidate with policies that don't make political nihilism seem very attractive and B) resist Republican attempts to disenfranchise as many likely Democrat voters as they can.